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Matt Gilman
Barring any objections, I'd like to more forward with the updated website
[1]. I've kept up with the changes with the exception of those from the
last few days. Assuming everyone is on board I will reach out to INFRA
about the possibilities for the website build. Based on that conservation I
will update the nifi-site in our Git repo [2] accordingly. I am assuming
that we'll be doing an external build and part of that build will be
deploying the site using SVN.

[1] https://nifi.incubator.apache.org/v2/
[2] https://github.com/apache/incubator-nifi/tree/develop/nifi-site

On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 3:28 AM, Jennifer Barnabee <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> I think that's perfect!
>
> On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 10:08 PM, Joe Witt <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Hello
> >
> > Made some of these suggested edits/simplifications to the current site.
> > New tagline
> >
> > "Apache NiFi is an easy to use, powerful, and reliable system to process
> > and distribute data."
> >
> > Also removed the jumbotron block as it was causing some really strange
> text
> > sizing issues.
> >
> > Jenn - does this seem more like what you were thinking?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Joe
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 11:03 PM, Matt Gilman <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Aldrin,
> > >
> > > What you've outline is exactly what I am looking to accomplish, I'm
> just
> > > trying to figure out all the pieces. I think I have a handle on
> > everything
> > > except actual publishing of the site. Though I believe the email you
> sent
> > > out earlier indicates that we just need to discuss the matter further
> > with
> > > infrastructure@ mailing list. I tried committing a change (outside of
> > CMS)
> > > to the staging repository hoping it would kick off the publishing. It
> did
> > > not.
> > >
> > > I have prototyped the site artifacts which can be built into the static
> > > site. I still need to copy over the existing content but I'm trying to
> > > figure out where this is going to live first. Barring any objections I
> am
> > > going to create (likely tomorrow) a nifi-site directory at the root of
> > our
> > > Git repository and go from there. Currently everything is living in a
> > > repository that I forked from the work that Aldrin had started.
> Anyways,
> > I
> > > believe moving it to the project Git repository puts the site in a more
> > > accessible place where others can contribute as necessary.
> > >
> > > As I mentioned to Dan earlier, I am hoping that we can utilize a maven
> > > plugin [1] to deploy the relevant documentation (processor, guides,
> > > javadocs) from the application build to a predefined location. The site
> > > would just reference it from there. This would keep the site and
> > > application builds independent which I think is desirable.
> > >
> > > [1] http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-scm-publish-plugin/
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 10:30 PM, Aldrin Piri <[hidden email]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > All the comments have been good but are a bit beyond where the
> current
> > > > platform for them needs to be.  Additionally, with a site more
> > accessible
> > > > and live, changes can be made via contributions. Trying to route
> things
> > > > back on topic a bit as there are external dependencies on some
> > > "finalized"
> > > > state of the site, I did some research into how other projects are
> > > > accomplishing this based off of Matt's notes.
> > > >
> > > > Matt, looking at jclouds, it appears as though they also use the ASF
> > > > infrastructure to manage their site, but perform a build through a
> > script
> > > > [1], invoking Jekyll to generate the static pages pushed to the infra
> > > SVN;
> > > > it is a home-brewed git+svn of sorts, but the overall concept makes
> > > sense.
> > > > Given the technologies you listed, this seems like a fair approach to
> > > > utilize the build tools right for the job while simultaneously not
> > > > requiring a special setup as outlined in the Apache CMS information
> > [2],
> > > > the community can freely pick the technologies they wish with the
> > notion
> > > > that the interface between site code and the actual view is static
> html
> > > > committed to the Infra SVN repo.
> > > >
> > > > The one area that I think is important to address though is the
> > > > incorporation of the material being generated in the git repository
> and
> > > as
> > > > a product of the build process.  Quickly brainstorming a way to
> attack
> > > this
> > > > would be:
> > > >
> > > > 1.  provide a top level folder in the NiFi git repository, 'site'
> > (Matt
> > > > posed this as a possibility to which no one had any objections, so it
> > > seems
> > > > like a reasonable path forward)
> > > > 2.  provide a script that compiles the site, making use of the
> desired
> > > > tools assuming the structure of the site
> > > > 3.  provide orchestration of the core codebase and the site
> > > >   a.  through Maven and possibly the exec or similar plugin, profile,
> > or
> > > > other avenue, build the codebase needed (mvn -pl -am may do the job)
> > > >   b.  call the script to generate the static structure of the site
> > which
> > > > has a build target that is a copy of the svn checkout to make use of
> > the
> > > > diff (maybe there is a way to use git+svn to make this work in a less
> > > > cumbersome manner)
> > > > 4.  commit to infra subversion
> > > >
> > > > The code for the site is easily accessible and allows submission of
> > > patches
> > > > via git while using the tools that make sense for accomplishing what
> is
> > > > needed; Subversion just becomes the means for content delivery.
> > > >
> > > > There are certainly a number of details to iron out with the above
> > plan.
> > > > The biggest item is taking the disparate formats (asciidoc, processor
> > > > documentation) and condensing them into the HTML/CSS template set
> > forth,
> > > > but both have provisions for specifying CSS, so it is certainly
> doable.
> > > > The above method allows for the avoidance of committing generated
> files
> > > to
> > > > the core codebase (obviously, all generated files compose the SVN
> > site),
> > > > and allows for a direct correlation between documentation and a given
> > > > commit while simultaneously not binding the site explicitly to SVN or
> > ASF
> > > > CMS.
> > > >
> > > > One item that seems problematic with the above plan is that it would
> > > remove
> > > > the ease of submitting a patch via the provided bookmarklet that
> works
> > > with
> > > > the CMS.  This becomes a manual process to find the source content
> and
> > > > apply the patch to it in Git.  Although to some extent, this is
> already
> > > the
> > > > case given the use of Asciidoc and the Processor documentation.  Not
> > sure
> > > > if it is a deal breaker or not, but it is a point of consideration.
> > > >
> > > > [1]
> https://github.com/jclouds/jclouds-site/blob/master/deploy-site.sh
> > > > [2] http://www.apache.org/dev/cms.html#external
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Jennifer Barnabee <
> > > > [hidden email]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > You guys are totally right.  Ok, as a starting point, what about
> this
> > > or
> > > > > something like this?
> > > > >
> > > > > Apache NiFi is a highly configurable and intuitive dataflow
> > management
> > > > > system.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -Jenn
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Donald Miner <
> > [hidden email]>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Same here, never heard of fbp.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I like the Accumulo blurb on the front page a lot:
> > > > > > The Apache Accumulo™ sorted, distributed key/value store is a
> > robust,
> > > > > > scalable, high performance data storage and retrieval system.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (I think i based my suggestion on this). It just gets to the
> point
> > > and
> > > > as
> > > > > > a technologist that has a clue or two I know what it is trying to
> > do.
> > > > > > Another example Kafka: "A high-throughput distributed messaging
> > > > system. "
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Jan 29, 2015, at 5:07 PM, Joey Echeverria <[hidden email]
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Just to clarify, I wasn't advocating that it should be removed
> > (I'm
> > > > not
> > > > > > > really advocating for anything). My point was meant to
> illustrate
> > > > that
> > > > > > it's
> > > > > > > not a draw, but it is potentially an educational reference. So,
> > it
> > > > > > depends
> > > > > > > on how you want to use the real-estate in the tag line.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thu Jan 29 2015 at 11:19:38 AM Joe Witt <[hidden email]
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> We can get rid of the FBP reference.  I'll just be the excited
> > > tech
> > > > > guy
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > >> the corner of the conference that keeps talking about it.
> > > > > > >>>> On Jan 29, 2015 1:00 PM, "Joey Echeverria" <
> [hidden email]>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> I understand that flow-based programming is very important as
> > the
> > > > > model
> > > > > > >> of
> > > > > > >>> NiFi, but I don't think it's a widely understood term. FWIW,
> I
> > > > hadn't
> > > > > > >> heard
> > > > > > >>> of it until I started working with NiFi.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> On Thu Jan 29 2015 at 9:56:10 AM Jennifer Barnabee <
> > > > > > >>> [hidden email]> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>> Hi Donald,
> > > > > > >>>> I like your tagline sentence for the most part. Thanks so
> much
> > > for
> > > > > > >>> sending
> > > > > > >>>> it. Maybe it can get us to where we want to be...
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> I have these thoughts to add...
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> a) I think we want to honor that flow-based programming is
> the
> > > > basis
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > >>> the
> > > > > > >>>> software. So, that's important, and I think that's why it
> went
> > > > into
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > >>>> tagline. But I'm not sure whether it has to be specifically
> > > there.
> > > > > > >>> Someone
> > > > > > >>>> else can weigh in on that.
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> b) My only problem with your tagline is the last part:
> > > "transform
> > > > > and
> > > > > > >>> move
> > > > > > >>>> files". One thing is - we don't want to limit NiFi to being
> > only
> > > > > > >>>> file-based. Secondly, moving and transforming data is not
> all
> > > that
> > > > > > NiFi
> > > > > > >>>> does. In truth, NiFi is not just a dataflow system. It's a
> > > > dataflow
> > > > > > >>>> management system. And that encompasses everything about the
> > > > > dataflow,
> > > > > > >>> from
> > > > > > >>>> how the data moves and/or gets transformed and routed, to
> how
> > > you
> > > > > > >> monitor
> > > > > > >>>> that, how you track down the data, how you configure and
> > design
> > > > the
> > > > > > >>>> dataflow to be better, etc.  The moving and transforming
> parts
> > > are
> > > > > > just
> > > > > > >>>> some of the extension points. It's the framework that allows
> > you
> > > > to
> > > > > > >>> manage
> > > > > > >>>> *whatever* you do with the data.
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> So, now that I've rambled on, it's clear that I can't come
> up
> > > with
> > > > > > >>>> something concise. I think I may be too close to everything
> > :-)
> > > > > > >>>> But I think you are on the right track! I would be happy to
> > know
> > > > > what
> > > > > > >>>> others think. It would be great if people could land on the
> > page
> > > > and
> > > > > > >>>> quickly understand what NiFi is. So far, your sentence would
> > get
> > > > > > people
> > > > > > >>>> closer to that than anything I have proposed.
> > > > > > >>>> Cheers,
> > > > > > >>>> Jenn
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:36 AM, Donald Miner <
> > > > > [hidden email]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> On the subject of taglines, a minor nitpick (sorry). I'm
> > just a
> > > > fan
> > > > > > >> of
> > > > > > >>>>> concise and meaningful taglines.
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> "is a dataflow system based on the concepts of flow-based
> > > > > > >> programming.
> > > > > > >>> It
> > > > > > >>>>> is currently a part of the Apache Incubator." is rather
> > wordy.
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> "flow" and "based" are in this sentence twice, which makes
> it
> > > > kind
> > > > > of
> > > > > > >>>>> awkward. Does flow-based programming really matter enough
> to
> > be
> > > > > part
> > > > > > >> of
> > > > > > >>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>> tagline? Maybe it should just be a bullet point below. Same
> > > with
> > > > > > >>>> incubator
> > > > > > >>>>> status... I think that's readily available information that
> > > > doesn't
> > > > > > >>>>> necessarily need to be in the tagline (and would eventually
> > > > > change).
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> Here's my stab:
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> "The Apache NiFi dataflow system is an easy to use, highly
> > > > > > >>> configurable,
> > > > > > >>>>> extendable, and reliable way to transform and move files."
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> I think the list of properties in the middle of my sentence
> > > could
> > > > > be
> > > > > > >>>>> replaced by someone who has a better idea of what the true
> > > > sticking
> > > > > > >>>> points
> > > > > > >>>>> for NiFi will be.
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> -d
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Joe Witt <
> > [hidden email]>
> > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>> Jenn
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>> Apologies for the delayed feedback.
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>> I agree it could be more concise but feel like the
> proposed
> > is
> > > > too
> > > > > > >>>>> concise
> > > > > > >>>>>> to as have lost some important meaning.  Many projects
> claim
> > > > > > >> they're
> > > > > > >>>>>> lightweight, scalable, and easy to use and almost always
> > that
> > > > just
> > > > > > >>>> isn't
> > > > > > >>>>>> true.  We're arguably not 'lightweight' anymore.  We could
> > > have
> > > > > > >> said
> > > > > > >>>> that
> > > > > > >>>>>> when it was a 6 MB download perhaps but now that we're
> > > weighing
> > > > in
> > > > > > >> at
> > > > > > >>>>>> 100MB's we probably shouldn't claim that on its own.
> We're
> > > > > > >> certainly
> > > > > > >>>>>> 'lightweight' in many important aspects and arguably in
> all
> > > the
> > > > > > >> ways
> > > > > > >>>> that
> > > > > > >>>>>> truly matter but we should be at least somewhat
> specific.  I
> > > > agree
> > > > > > >>>> we're
> > > > > > >>>>>> scalable but again without context that feels
> misleading.  I
> > > > agree
> > > > > > >> we
> > > > > > >>>>> have
> > > > > > >>>>>> an extremely nice UI that is indeed highly configurable
> and
> > > > > > >> intuitive
> > > > > > >>>> but
> > > > > > >>>>>> the same thoughts apply which is we should provide some
> > > context
> > > > as
> > > > > > >> to
> > > > > > >>>>> what
> > > > > > >>>>>> we mean.
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>> This is the nice part of this as an open source thing.  We
> > can
> > > > > just
> > > > > > >>> be
> > > > > > >>>>>> straight up and precise about the features and what
> they're
> > > good
> > > > > > >> for
> > > > > > >>>> and
> > > > > > >>>>>> what they do.  We can even be self deprecating and point
> out
> > > > what
> > > > > > >>> we're
> > > > > > >>>>> not
> > > > > > >>>>>> good at.  If it were a commercial construct or we were
> > > marketing
> > > > > > >> then
> > > > > > >>>> we
> > > > > > >>>>>> might need to be less specific so as not to exclude some
> > > > potential
> > > > > > >>>>> business
> > > > > > >>>>>> area.  But in this case, we're a tiny little open source
> > > project
> > > > > > >> that
> > > > > > >>>>> very
> > > > > > >>>>>> few people know about.  We're only going to grow by being
> > > > > > >>>> straightforward
> > > > > > >>>>>> about what it is and attracting those who buy in to that
> > > vision
> > > > > and
> > > > > > >>>>>> direction.
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>> Just thoughts here - i am not asking you to avoid changing
> > it
> > > > > > >> should
> > > > > > >>>> you
> > > > > > >>>>>> feel really strongly that you want to change it.
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>> Thanks
> > > > > > >>>>>> Joe
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 6:04 AM, Jennifer Barnabee <
> > > > > > >>>>>> [hidden email]> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>> Hi Matt et al -
> > > > > > >>>>>>> The new website design is looking great...  I feel like
> the
> > > > text
> > > > > > >>>> needs
> > > > > > >>>>> to
> > > > > > >>>>>>> be simpler and more to the point.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>> For the tagline under the first Apache nifi heading, I
> > > suggest
> > > > > > >>> making
> > > > > > >>>>> it
> > > > > > >>>>>> a
> > > > > > >>>>>>> bullet rather than including the verb "is". I'd also like
> > to
> > > > make
> > > > > > >>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>> features into simpler bullets. See my suggested text
> > below. I
> > > > > > >> hope
> > > > > > >>> it
> > > > > > >>>>>> still
> > > > > > >>>>>>> captures the essence of what we want to convey, but
> others
> > > may
> > > > > > >> have
> > > > > > >>>>> good
> > > > > > >>>>>>> suggestions as well...  For example, in the last bullet,
> I
> > > > don't
> > > > > > >>> know
> > > > > > >>>>> if
> > > > > > >>>>>>> "client" would be better than "user" or if
> "authentication"
> > > > would
> > > > > > >>> be
> > > > > > >>>>>> better
> > > > > > >>>>>>> than "authorization". You guys probably have a better
> > handle
> > > on
> > > > > > >>> that
> > > > > > >>>>> type
> > > > > > >>>>>>> of stuff.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>> *Apache nifi *
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>> - A dataflow system based on the concepts of flow-based
> > > > > > >>> programming.
> > > > > > >>>> It
> > > > > > >>>>>> is
> > > > > > >>>>>>> currently a part of the Apache Incubator.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>> Apache NiFi supports powerful and scalable directed
> graphs
> > of
> > > > > > >> data
> > > > > > >>>>>> routing,
> > > > > > >>>>>>> transformation, and system mediation logic. High-level
> > > features
> > > > > > >>>>> include:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Lightweight
> > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Scalable
> > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Highly Configurable
> > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Intuitive User Interface
> > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Component-based Extension Model
> > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Fine Grained Data Provenance
> > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Enterprise & Inter-system Security
> > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Content Encryption/Decryption
> > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Pluggable SSL & PKI User Authorization
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>> *I kinda don't like that you have to scroll down to see
> all
> > > the
> > > > > > >>>>> features.
> > > > > > >>>>>>> But I realize it wouldn't bother me if I was looking at
> it
> > on
> > > > my
> > > > > > >>>> phone,
> > > > > > >>>>>> so
> > > > > > >>>>>>> I don't know why I'm complaining about that... *
> > > > > > >>>>>>> Cheers,
> > > > > > >>>>>>> Jenn
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 11:43 PM, Matt Gilman <
> > > > > > >>>> [hidden email]
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> I went ahead and started implementing the website based
> on
> > > the
> > > > > > >>> most
> > > > > > >>>>>>> recent
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> feedback and mock ups. I've done just the main page and
> > put
> > > it
> > > > > > >>>> here:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> http://nifi.incubator.apache.org/v2/
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> Please let me know if there's a more appropriate place
> to
> > > host
> > > > > > >>>> that.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> Anyways, I am going to continue working to port over the
> > > > > > >>> remaining
> > > > > > >>>>>> pages
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> and figure out a good way to integrate the documentation
> > > that
> > > > > > >> is
> > > > > > >>>>>>> generated
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> from building NiFi. Part of that is likely going to
> depend
> > > on
> > > > > > >>> what
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> repository the site is kept in. What I've done uses a
> > number
> > > > of
> > > > > > >>>> tools
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> (grunt, assemble, bower, etc) to actually build the
> site.
> > I
> > > > > > >>> believe
> > > > > > >>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> Apache CMS tool will be CMing the resulting site. Where
> do
> > > > > > >> others
> > > > > > >>>> CM
> > > > > > >>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> actual development artifacts of their sites? I did find
> > > > another
> > > > > > >>>>> Apache
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> project with a similar set up:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> https://github.com/jclouds/jclouds-site
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> and they appear to have a separate repository for there
> > > site.
> > > > > > >>>> Should
> > > > > > >>>>> I
> > > > > > >>>>>> be
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> requesting another repository for this? Or should I just
> > add
> > > > it
> > > > > > >>> to
> > > > > > >>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> existing incubator-nifi and have a top level folder for
> > the
> > > > > > >> site?
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> Also, I also noticed that jclouds has a deployment
> script
> > > > which
> > > > > > >>>>> appears
> > > > > > >>>>>>> to
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> automate that process as well. Is this how most projects
> > > > handle
> > > > > > >>>> site
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> updates?
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> Thanks.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> Matt
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 8:24 PM, Aldrin Piri <
> > > > > > >>> [hidden email]
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Seems like a fair list of points to resolve.  Let me
> know
> > > how
> > > > > > >>> you
> > > > > > >>>>>> want
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> to tackle it and if you'd like me to investigate any of
> > > them.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> AsciiDoc provides an HTML5 backend [1] that should
> > provide
> > > a
> > > > > > >>> hook
> > > > > > >>>>> to
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> help it be consistent in some form with the rest of the
> > > site.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> [1]
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > http://www.methods.co.nz/asciidoc/asciidoc.css-embedded.html#X35
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 8:10 AM, Matt Gilman <
> > > > > > >>>>>> [hidden email]>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Agreed. Lets see give it a try and see how it looks. I
> > > > > > >>> thought
> > > > > > >>>>>> about
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> possibly just putting the drop in the toolbar but held
> > off
> > > > > > >>>>>> initially
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> but
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> your comment about being consistently visible across
> all
> > > > > > >>> pages
> > > > > > >>>> is
> > > > > > >>>>>> on
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> point.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> This brings up another issue that the current
> > > documentation
> > > > > > >>>> loads
> > > > > > >>>>>> in
> > > > > > >>>>>>> a
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> page
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> without the toolbar so that'll have to be addressed.
> > > > > > >> Haven't
> > > > > > >>>>> messed
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> with
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> bootstrap so I'll have to see what's possible.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Outstanding issues...
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> - Better integrate documentation pages into website
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> - Get updated images (and properly scale them)
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> - Update website markup for production use (what I did
> > was
> > > > > > >>>> quick
> > > > > > >>>>>> and
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> just
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> for the mockup so we continue this discussion)
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Anything else I'm forgetting?
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 12:26 AM, Aldrin Piri <
> > > > > > >>>>>> [hidden email]>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Matt,
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Looks good here.  I think clean and simple is the
> right
> > > > > > >>>>> direction
> > > > > > >>>>>>> and
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> this
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> is just another step in that evolution. I think it
> is a
> > > > > > >>> matter
> > > > > > >>>>> of
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> nit-picking at this point so the following comments
> > come
> > > > > > >>> with
> > > > > > >>>>> that
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> scope of
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> importance.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I would like to see the logo make it somewhere on the
> > > page
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> consistently
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> for
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the sake of keeping it across all pages in the
> site.  I
> > > > > > >>>> realize
> > > > > > >>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> logo in
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the navbar is rather redundant for the home page, but
> > on
> > > > > > >> all
> > > > > > >>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>> other
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> pages such as documentation and general project
> > > > > > >> information,
> > > > > > >>>>> there
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> will
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> be
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> no presence in the current state.  One way to
> > compromise
> > > > > > >>> might
> > > > > > >>>>> be
> > > > > > >>>>>> to
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> make
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> use of the commonplace technique where the logo on
> the
> > > > > > >> main
> > > > > > >>>>>> content
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> area
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> gets placed into the navbar when scrolling would
> > obscure
> > > > > > >> the
> > > > > > >>>>> logo;
> > > > > > >>>>>>> all
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> other pages would then just have it in the header.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Maybe a slightly heavier weight on the navbar for the
> > > menu
> > > > > > >>>>> items.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 22:51 Matt Gilman <
> > > > > > >>>>>> [hidden email]>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Aldrin,
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> I like what you did here and it sounds like most
> > people
> > > > > > >> do
> > > > > > >>>>> too.
> > > > > > >>>>>> I
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wanted
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> provide some feedback and minor suggestions but
> > thought
> > > > > > >> it
> > > > > > >>>>> would
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> just
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> be
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> easier to mock it up myself rather than trying to
> ask
> > > > > > >> you
> > > > > > >>> to
> > > > > > >>>>>> move
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> this
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> here
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> and that there. Anyways, take a peek and lets
> continue
> > > > > > >>>>>> iterating.
> > > > > > >>>>>>> I
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> think
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> we're on the right track.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://raw.githubusercontent.
> > > > > > >>>> com/mcgilman/apache-nifi-site/
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> screenshots/index.html.lite.v1.2.png
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Matt
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 10:05 PM, Joe Witt <
> > > > > > >>>>> [hidden email]>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dan,
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> No real thought behind it.  But I personally agree
> > > > > > >> with
> > > > > > >>>> your
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> statement:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the logos look good as "nifi" and the text looks
> good
> > > > > > >> as
> > > > > > >>>>>> "NiFi"
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 10:03 PM, Daniel Bress <
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aldrin,
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   I think this looks good.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> All,
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Maybe this is a little off topic, but I noticed
> > > > > > >>> that
> > > > > > >>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> logos
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> consistently use "nifi" whereas in text its
> > > > > > >>> consistently
> > > > > > >>>>>>> written
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> as
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "NiFi".  Any reason for the difference?
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   I kind of thing the logos look good as "nifi"
> and
> > > > > > >>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>> text
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> looks
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> good
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> as "NiFi" so I might be questioning something
> that I
> > > > > > >>> am
> > > > > > >>>> OK
> > > > > > >>>>>>> with.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> But I
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> noticed they are different and was wondering if
> this
> > > > > > >>>> was a
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> conscious
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> decision or not.  Thoughts?
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dan Bress
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Software Engineer
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ONYX Consulting Services
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________________
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Joe Witt <[hidden email]>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 6:40 PM
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [hidden email]
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Website Theme
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Solid design and agree with all your comments
> > > > > > >> aldrin.
> > > > > > >>>>> Very
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> nice
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2015 6:27 PM, "Aldrin Piri" <
> > > > > > >>>>>> [hidden email]>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark,
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the comments.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I actuality tried it without the logo on the main
> > > > > > >>> page
> > > > > > >>>>> and
> > > > > > >>>>>>> it
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> felt
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> a
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bit empty.  I don't know that we necessarily need
> > > > > > >>> the
> > > > > > >>>>> logo
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> there,
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> but
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something is needed.  Additionally, I viewed it
> as
> > > > > > >>>> being
> > > > > > >>>>>>> just
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> a
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> "front
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page" inclusion, as other pages would just have
> > > > > > >> the
> > > > > > >>>> top
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> navbar.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You caught me.  I was lazy and I recycled the
> > > > > > >>>> screenshot
> > > > > > >>>>>>> from
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first iteration.  It would definitely need
> > > > > > >> updating,
> > > > > > >>>> but
> > > > > > >>>>>> is
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> largely
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just a placeholder for the concept.  I would
> > > > > > >>>> definitely
> > > > > > >>>>>> like
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> something
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a bit more engaging.  (faux edit) I rearranged
> > > > > > >>> things
> > > > > > >>>> a
> > > > > > >>>>>> bit,
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> removing
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the second instance of the logo and placing more
> > > > > > >>>>> emphasis
> > > > > > >>>>>> on
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> one
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the corner of the application.  Not sure if I
> > > > > > >>> like
> > > > > > >>>> it
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> better,
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> but
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've provided the results [1] with all three of
> > > > > > >> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> submissions
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> shown
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in chronological order [2].
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The news section is a toss-up for me at this
> > > > > > >>> juncture.
> > > > > > >>>>> I
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> could
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> see
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the need one for eventually, but I'm not sure if
> > > > > > >> the
> > > > > > >>>>>> project
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> is
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> quite
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there yet.  It seemed a common thread among
> > > > > > >>> incubating
> > > > > > >>>>>> sites
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> that
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> such
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a section was omitted whereas those top-level
> > > > > > >>> projects
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> typically
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> included one.  Given that the project is on the
> > > > > > >>> verge
> > > > > > >>>> on
> > > > > > >>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> first
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> of
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the regular releases, perhaps this is
> increasingly
> > > > > > >>>>>> pertinent
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> in
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> near future.  At minimum, one of the screen grabs
> > > > > > >>> from
> > > > > > >>>>>> your
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> blog
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> posts
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be a good candidate.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > > > > > >>>>>
> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/apiri/apache-nifi-site/scr
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> eenshots/index.html.lite.v1.1.png
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > >
> https://github.com/apiri/apache-nifi-site/blob/screenshots/README.md
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Mark Payne <
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> [hidden email]
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aldrin,
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm liking it! Definitely looks nice. Though I
> > > > > > >>> would
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> provide a
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> bit
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> of
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feedback:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure that I would include the NiFi logo
> > > > > > >> on
> > > > > > >>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> right-hand
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> side,
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since it's already in the top-left.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From a NiFi 'brand' perspective, I would update
> > > > > > >>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> screenshot a
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> bit.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This screenshot is using the old logo in the
> > > > > > >>> top-left
> > > > > > >>>>>>> corner,
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> and
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> graph
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shows all of the data disappearing before the
> > > > > > >>>>>>> RouteOnAttribute
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Processor.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd recommend we construct a dataflow that's more
> > > > > > >>>>>> appealing
> > > > > > >>>>>>> to
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> target
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> audience, perhaps integrating with other Apache
> > > > > > >>>> projects
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> (HDFS,
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Kafka
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> are
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible, for instance) or using (S)FTP
> processor.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does it make sense to have maybe like a 'Latest
> > > > > > >>>> News'
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> section
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> or
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something where we could post things like
> "Version
> > > > > > >>>> 0.0.1
> > > > > > >>>>>>> just
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> released!"
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc.?
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm really liking the concept - nice job!
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks-Mark
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 07:00:52 -0800
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Website Theme
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: [hidden email]
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [hidden email]
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I like it.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 8:50 PM, Aldrin Piri <
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I found some time today to provide another
> > > > > > >> look
> > > > > > >>>> for
> > > > > > >>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> site.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> There
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were very minor changes to the core HTML as
> > > > > > >> is
> > > > > > >>>>>>> currently
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> served
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> at
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nidi homepage and it is largely just a
> > > > > > >>>> stylesheet.
> > > > > > >>>>>>> This
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> one
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> is
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> highly
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minimal and clean, still driven by Bootstrap
> > > > > > >>> and
> > > > > > >>>>>>> directly
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> makes
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> use
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the colors from the UI itself.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A screenshot can be seen at
> > > > > > >>>>>
> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/apiri/apache-nifi-site/scr
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> eenshots/index.html.lite.png
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the associated code under the "lite"
> > > > > > >>> branch
> > > > > > >>>> at
> > > > > > >>>>> https://github.com/apiri/apache-nifi-site/tree/lite
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any thoughts are appreciated.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 9:54 PM, Aldrin Piri <
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry if this somehow gets sent twice.   My
> > > > > > >>>> first
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> submission
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> seemed
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bounce as it exceeded the spam threshold
> > > > > > >>> when I
> > > > > > >>>>>> sent
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> it a
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> couple
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hours ago and it has yet to appear, so I'm
> > > > > > >>>>> sending
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> again.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> First and foremost, good feedback.  I think
> > > > > > >>>> UI/UX
> > > > > > >>>>>>> stuff
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> is
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> tricky
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am happy to find my livelihood in the
> > > > > > >>>> plumbing
> > > > > > >>>>>> and
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> behind
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scenes
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's my attempt to try and tackle all the
> > > > > > >>>>>> comments
> > > > > > >>>>>>> in
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> one
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> fell
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> swoop:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree that Bootstrap is everywhere, but I
> > > > > > >>>> don't
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> necessarily
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is a bad thing.  One could argue that
> > > > > > >>>>>> interfaces
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> of
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> all
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> forms
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> converging and users have the instant
> > > > > > >>>> familiarity
> > > > > > >>>>>> of
> > > > > > >>>>>>> a
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> known
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quantity.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know that I am totally unaware of what it
> > > > > > >>>> takes
> > > > > > >>>>>> to
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> make a
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> site
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> functional and maintain its feel across
> > > > > > >>>>> devices.  I
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> think
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> that
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> last
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> part is important.  Personally, as a user
> > > > > > >> on
> > > > > > >>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>> other
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> side
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> of
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screen, I don't really understand why sites
> > > > > > >>> do
> > > > > > >>>>> not
> > > > > > >>>>>>> work
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> or
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> jive
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my mobile device du jour these days; it
> > > > > > >>> should
> > > > > > >>>>> just
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> work.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> With
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> little I've learned about UX and "Not
> > > > > > >> Making
> > > > > > >>>>>> [Anyone]
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Think,"[1] I
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want an effortless experience; no pinch
> > > > > > >>>> zooming,
> > > > > > >>>>>> tap
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> panning,
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> etc.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there is a way to take bits and pieces of
> > > > > > >>>>> bootstrap
> > > > > > >>>>>>> to
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> this
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> end
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support that aspect without the cookie
> > > > > > >> cutter
> > > > > > >>>>> air,
> > > > > > >>>>>> I
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> would
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> be
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> quite
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thankful for some guidance on that front
> > > > > > >> and
> > > > > > >>> do
> > > > > > >>>>> my
> > > > > > >>>>>>> best
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> provide
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Out of the box though, the sample looked
> > > > > > >>> pretty
> > > > > > >>>>>>> decent
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> across
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> all
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> devices to which I had access, and used
> > > > > > >>>>> constructs
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> everyone
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> who
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> views
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> content through a tiny screen is
> > > > > > >> accustomed.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do agree on the front of the possibility
> > > > > > >> of
> > > > > > >>>>> brand
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> dilution,
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think it is an excellent point for
> > > > > > >>>> consideration.
> > > > > > >>>>>> As
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> original mailing, consideration was given
> > > > > > >> to
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> integrating
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> application's aesthetics into the core
> > > > > > >> site.
> > > > > > >>>> Not
> > > > > > >>>>>>> sure
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> if
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> this
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pan out in an appreciable way as I can see
> > > > > > >> it
> > > > > > >>>> in
> > > > > > >>>>> my
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> mind,
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> but
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> I
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> do
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feel it is an avenue worth exploring.  It
> > > > > > >> may
> > > > > > >>>>> also
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> completely
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> miss
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mark, but with my new found web dev
> > > > > > >> prowess,
> > > > > > >>> it
> > > > > > >>>>>>> should
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> be a
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> much
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quicker iteration than the first draft.
> > > > > > >>> You'll
> > > > > > >>>>>> see a
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> slight
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> homage
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this via the graph wallpaper that is
> > > > > > >> featured
> > > > > > >>>> in
> > > > > > >>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> application
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> itself.  This was muted a bit by a CSS
> > > > > > >>> overlay
> > > > > > >>>>> to a
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> level
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> that
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seemed
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> okay, but I definitely hedged as to whether
> > > > > > >>> or
> > > > > > >>>>> not
> > > > > > >>>>>> to
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> include
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ultimately, I wanted to get something out
> > > > > > >> to
> > > > > > >>>>> start
> > > > > > >>>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> ball
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rolling,
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> establishing a base for successive
> > > > > > >>>> iterations.  I
> > > > > > >>>>>>> know
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> that
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> with
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the hard work everyone is putting in, the
> > > > > > >>>> project
> > > > > > >>>>>> is
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> closely
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reaching
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its first milestone for release, and
> > > > > > >> thought
> > > > > > >>> it
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> important to
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> chip
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where possible to give a face to the
> > > > > > >> project.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Additionally, I think this particular
> > > > > > >> project
> > > > > > >>>>> needs
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> pictures
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> demonstrate what it's capabilities.  One of
> > > > > > >>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>> facets
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> that
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> makes
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me a
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believer about NiFi as a whole is that the
> > > > > > >>> end
> > > > > > >>>>> user
> > > > > > >>>>>>> is
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> not
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> just
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> developers.  Citing the previous example of
> > > > > > >>>>>> Accumulo,
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> its
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> intended
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> audience is very technical in nature and,
> > > > > > >>>>>>> accordingly,
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> a
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> lot
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> can
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expressed via the simple phrase of
> > > > > > >> "key-value
> > > > > > >>>>>> store."
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> I
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> would
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contend
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that NiFi's reach is far broader and can't
> > > > > > >> be
> > > > > > >>>>> done
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> justice
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> with
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simple phrase.  For the casual potential
> > > > > > >> user
> > > > > > >>>> who
> > > > > > >>>>>> has
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> strung
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> together
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> n-many processes of taking a file, manually
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> transforming
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> it,
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> and
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moving it elsewhere, they need to see at
> > > > > > >>> quick
> > > > > > >>>>>> glance
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> that
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> there
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something that can automate this tedium and
> > > > > > >>>> make
> > > > > > >>>>>> them
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> more
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effective.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Succinctly, the value proposition needs to
> > > > > > >> be
> > > > > > >>>>> there
> > > > > > >>>>>>> not
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> only
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> for
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> technical folks who will use this as a
> > > > > > >>>> framework,
> > > > > > >>>>>> but
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> additionally
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> end users.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The background for the header isn't
> > > > > > >> awesome,
> > > > > > >>>> but
> > > > > > >>>>> I
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> knew I
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wasn't
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> violating any licenses if I generated it
> > > > > > >>>>> myself.  I
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> viewed
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> it
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> more
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a placeholder than anything else.
> > > > > > >> Definitely
> > > > > > >>>>> not a
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> front
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> end
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> web
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> developer, even more definitively not a
> > > > > > >>> graphic
> > > > > > >>>>>>> artist.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> The
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> colors
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> came from starting with the logo dark blue
> > > > > > >>> and
> > > > > > >>>>>>> running
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> a
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> whole
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bunch
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of filters and plugins via GIMP to get
> > > > > > >>>> something.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Additionally,
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a CSS gradient applied over top of it as
> > > > > > >>>> well
> > > > > > >>>>>> when
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> it
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> seemed
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bit
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too loud.  It could definitely deal with
> > > > > > >>> being
> > > > > > >>>>>> muted
> > > > > > >>>>>>> a
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> bit
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> more.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] http://www.sensible.com/dmmt.html
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 12:57 PM, Tony Kurc
> > > > > > >> <
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey! It looks awesome! The existing site
> > > > > > >> was
> > > > > > >>>> put
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> together a
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> placeholder
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we went with a very generic layout that
> > > > > > >>> worked
> > > > > > >>>>>> well
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> with
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CMS and
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contained all the information expected of
> > > > > > >> an
> > > > > > >>>>>> apache
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> process.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a big improvement! For people new
> > > > > > >> to
> > > > > > >>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> project,
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> it
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> gives
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nice
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> upfront screenshot, with big fat links for
> > > > > > >>>>> things
> > > > > > >>>>>> I
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> care
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> about
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seeing!
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some things I didn't like about the
> > > > > > >> existing
> > > > > > >>>>> site
> > > > > > >>>>>>> are
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> glyphicon
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to "external" sites on the menu. I used
> > > > > > >>>> "link",
> > > > > > >>>>>> but
> > > > > > >>>>>>> I
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> think
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> it
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meant to
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be used for "permalink". Also, we kind of
> > > > > > >>>> took a
> > > > > > >>>>>>> best
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> guess
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> about
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should go in each dropdown in the menu.
> > > > > > >> I'm
> > > > > > >>>>> pretty
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> sure
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> it
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> could
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> organized. I'd also like to see the
> > > > > > >> awesome
> > > > > > >>>>> guides
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> that
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> people
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consistent theme with the website and
> > > > > > >> maybe
> > > > > > >>>> have
> > > > > > >>>>>>> pdfs
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> so
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> old-school
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folks
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can print them out (which may be a dumb
> > > > > > >> idea
> > > > > > >>>> ;)
> > > > > > >>>>> )
> > > > > > >>>>>> A
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> pet
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> peeve
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mine of
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> projects is having a hard time finding the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> documentation I
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> need,
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> javadocs or specifications - and keeping
> > > > > > >>>> around
> > > > > > >>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> older
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> versions
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documentation. I think we're still working
> > > > > > >>> on
> > > > > > >>>>>> these
> > > > > > >>>>>>> -
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> since
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> you
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> retained
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the menu up top it should be
> > > > > > >> straightforward
> > > > > > >>>> to
> > > > > > >>>>>>> have a
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> robust
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documentation
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dropdown.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The blue you used is more of a reddish or
> > > > > > >>>>> purplish
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> blue
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> -
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> blue
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> used
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the app is more of a greenish blue. I'm
> > > > > > >> kind
> > > > > > >>>> of
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> curious
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> what
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> a
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> greener
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blue
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would look like ... did you mock one up
> > > > > > >> and
> > > > > > >>> it
> > > > > > >>>>>>> looked
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> bad?
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Or
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe a
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fundamental question, should the website
> > > > > > >>> evoke
> > > > > > >>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> theme of
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> app? I
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't know how I feel.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tony
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Joe Witt
> > > > > > >> <
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd say the two sides of the spectrum as
> > > > > > >>>>> examples
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> are:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://kafka.apache.org/  [super
> > > > > > >>> minimalist]
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://aurora.incubator.apache.org/ [
> > > > > > >>> quite
> > > > > > >>>>>> fancy
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> looking ]
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Both in my opinion are beautifully done
> > > > > > >> and
> > > > > > >>>>> make
> > > > > > >>>>>> it
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> easy
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> get
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> content
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needed.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think these (and others) provide great
> > > > > > >>>>> examples
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> that
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> both
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sides
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spectrum have merit.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is most important to me is that we
> > > > > > >> as
> > > > > > >>> a
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> community
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> rally
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> behind
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the expertise and willingness to
> > > > > > >>>>> contribute
> > > > > > >>>>>> in
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> this
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> space.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Joe
> > > > > > >> Witt <
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Both are bootstrap based.  Each is an
> > > > > > >>>>> iterative
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> improvement.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And we
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep iterating as folks have time,
> > > > > > >>>>> willingness,
> > > > > > >>>>>>> and
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> expertise
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree that this new look does not
> > > > > > >>>>>> distinguish a
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> brand.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> But
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we're
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mature enough to worry about that yet.
> > > > > > >>> We
> > > > > > >>>>> just
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> need
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> enough
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info laid out enough to help grow a
> > > > > > >>>> community
> > > > > > >>>>>> and
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> get
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> folks
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need.  We need it laid out in a way
> > > > > > >> that
> > > > > > >>>>>> multiple
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> folks
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> can
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contribute.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once we have a release, recruit some
> > > > > > >>>>>> committers,
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> demonstrate
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> progress on
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Apache Way and grow then perhaps
> > > > > > >>>> branding
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> becomes a
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> bigger
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deal.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ..this motivates me to spawn another
> > > > > > >>> thread
> > > > > > >>>>>> about
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> type
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to be...
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Adam
> > > > > > >>> Taft
> > > > > > >>>> <
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This isn't a downvote -- I think it
> > > > > > >>> indeed
> > > > > > >>>>>> looks
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> good.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> But
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> terms of
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> constructive criticism...
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the mockup looks like a very
> > > > > > >>>> generic
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> "bootstrap"
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> site,
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> similar
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> million other bootstrap based sites.
> > > > > > >>> I'd
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> personally
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> almost
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prefer
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> existing utilitarian website over a
> > > > > > >>>>> bootstrap
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> theme,
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> simply
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't try to be anything more than
> > > > > > >>> what
> > > > > > >>>> it
> > > > > > >>>>>> is.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This approach might be an acceptable
> > > > > > >>>>> tradeoff
> > > > > > >>>>>>> for
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> project;
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> having
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bootstrap look & feel is obviously a
> > > > > > >>>>> resource
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> savings
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> and
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right price point.  But the site
> > > > > > >> mockup
> > > > > > >>>>>>> definitely
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distinguish
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache NiFi "brand" in anyway. In fact
> > > > > > >>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> opposite,
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> brand
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gets
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> watered
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> down with this look.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As a funny side note, humorously for
> > > > > > >> me,
> > > > > > >>>>> this
> > > > > > >>>>>>> was
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> first
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> head when I saw the site:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2010-04-01/
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Adam
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 7:39 PM, Aldrin
> > > > > > >>>> Piri
> > > > > > >>>>> <
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In partial fulfillment of the goals
> > > > > > >> of
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> NIFI-162, I
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> set
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> some
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aside
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> put together something a bit more
> > > > > > >>>> visually
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> appealing
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> as a
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> face
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My work can be found at:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apiri/apache-nifi-site
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently, work focused around the
> > > > > > >>>>> homepage,
> > > > > > >>>>>>> but
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> similar
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> styles
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> applied to more content driven pages
> > > > > > >>>> minus
> > > > > > >>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> large
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> headlining
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sections.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The relevant technology colophon is
> > > > > > >>>>> provided
> > > > > > >>>>>>> in
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> README
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Github
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but is
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> primarily driven by Bootstrap,
> > > > > > >>> existing
> > > > > > >>>>>> image
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> resources
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> included
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project and current site, and other
> > > > > > >>>>>> "artwork"
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> which I
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> created
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> myself.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am neither a UX expert nor am I a
> > > > > > >>>>> renowned
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> front
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> end
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> designer,
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> input is welcome.  As a "version
> > > > > > >> 1.1"
> > > > > > >>> I
> > > > > > >>>>>> would
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> like to
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> adjust
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> converge more with the application.
> > > > > > >>>> Ideas
> > > > > > >>>>>> for
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> this
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> are
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inclusive
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> points
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> such as bringing the toolbar styling
> > > > > > >>> and
> > > > > > >>>>>> color
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> scheme
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> from
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> application
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the site.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If this seems like a reasonable path
> > > > > > >>>>> forward
> > > > > > >>>>>>> and
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> there
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> is
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sufficient
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support, I can look at the next
> > > > > > >> steps
> > > > > > >>> to
> > > > > > >>>>> get
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> this
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> integrated
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project, optimization, and
> > > > > > >> integration
> > > > > > >>>>> with
> > > > > > >>>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> application
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> itself.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To aid in showing the intangibles
> > > > > > >> that
> > > > > > >>>>> can't
> > > > > > >>>>>>> be
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> seen
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> from
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> an
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> image, I
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a copy of this design hosted at
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://aldrinpiri.com/apache-nifi/.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links are currently nonfunctional as
> > > > > > >>>> they
> > > > > > >>>>>> were
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> taken
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> from
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> current
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --Aldrin
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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Re: Website Theme

Joe Witt
Matt

It looks good.  Before we switch we should get the mechanics of update
documented.   Do you know that or is it TBD?

Also do you need assistance with updating the screenshot?

Joe
On Feb 8, 2015 4:45 AM, "Matt Gilman" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Barring any objections, I'd like to more forward with the updated website
> [1]. I've kept up with the changes with the exception of those from the
> last few days. Assuming everyone is on board I will reach out to INFRA
> about the possibilities for the website build. Based on that conservation I
> will update the nifi-site in our Git repo [2] accordingly. I am assuming
> that we'll be doing an external build and part of that build will be
> deploying the site using SVN.
>
> [1] https://nifi.incubator.apache.org/v2/
> [2] https://github.com/apache/incubator-nifi/tree/develop/nifi-site
>
> On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 3:28 AM, Jennifer Barnabee <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > I think that's perfect!
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 10:08 PM, Joe Witt <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello
> > >
> > > Made some of these suggested edits/simplifications to the current site.
> > > New tagline
> > >
> > > "Apache NiFi is an easy to use, powerful, and reliable system to
> process
> > > and distribute data."
> > >
> > > Also removed the jumbotron block as it was causing some really strange
> > text
> > > sizing issues.
> > >
> > > Jenn - does this seem more like what you were thinking?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Joe
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 11:03 PM, Matt Gilman <[hidden email]
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Aldrin,
> > > >
> > > > What you've outline is exactly what I am looking to accomplish, I'm
> > just
> > > > trying to figure out all the pieces. I think I have a handle on
> > > everything
> > > > except actual publishing of the site. Though I believe the email you
> > sent
> > > > out earlier indicates that we just need to discuss the matter further
> > > with
> > > > infrastructure@ mailing list. I tried committing a change (outside
> of
> > > CMS)
> > > > to the staging repository hoping it would kick off the publishing. It
> > did
> > > > not.
> > > >
> > > > I have prototyped the site artifacts which can be built into the
> static
> > > > site. I still need to copy over the existing content but I'm trying
> to
> > > > figure out where this is going to live first. Barring any objections
> I
> > am
> > > > going to create (likely tomorrow) a nifi-site directory at the root
> of
> > > our
> > > > Git repository and go from there. Currently everything is living in a
> > > > repository that I forked from the work that Aldrin had started.
> > Anyways,
> > > I
> > > > believe moving it to the project Git repository puts the site in a
> more
> > > > accessible place where others can contribute as necessary.
> > > >
> > > > As I mentioned to Dan earlier, I am hoping that we can utilize a
> maven
> > > > plugin [1] to deploy the relevant documentation (processor, guides,
> > > > javadocs) from the application build to a predefined location. The
> site
> > > > would just reference it from there. This would keep the site and
> > > > application builds independent which I think is desirable.
> > > >
> > > > [1] http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-scm-publish-plugin/
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 10:30 PM, Aldrin Piri <[hidden email]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > All the comments have been good but are a bit beyond where the
> > current
> > > > > platform for them needs to be.  Additionally, with a site more
> > > accessible
> > > > > and live, changes can be made via contributions. Trying to route
> > things
> > > > > back on topic a bit as there are external dependencies on some
> > > > "finalized"
> > > > > state of the site, I did some research into how other projects are
> > > > > accomplishing this based off of Matt's notes.
> > > > >
> > > > > Matt, looking at jclouds, it appears as though they also use the
> ASF
> > > > > infrastructure to manage their site, but perform a build through a
> > > script
> > > > > [1], invoking Jekyll to generate the static pages pushed to the
> infra
> > > > SVN;
> > > > > it is a home-brewed git+svn of sorts, but the overall concept makes
> > > > sense.
> > > > > Given the technologies you listed, this seems like a fair approach
> to
> > > > > utilize the build tools right for the job while simultaneously not
> > > > > requiring a special setup as outlined in the Apache CMS information
> > > [2],
> > > > > the community can freely pick the technologies they wish with the
> > > notion
> > > > > that the interface between site code and the actual view is static
> > html
> > > > > committed to the Infra SVN repo.
> > > > >
> > > > > The one area that I think is important to address though is the
> > > > > incorporation of the material being generated in the git repository
> > and
> > > > as
> > > > > a product of the build process.  Quickly brainstorming a way to
> > attack
> > > > this
> > > > > would be:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1.  provide a top level folder in the NiFi git repository, 'site'
> > > (Matt
> > > > > posed this as a possibility to which no one had any objections, so
> it
> > > > seems
> > > > > like a reasonable path forward)
> > > > > 2.  provide a script that compiles the site, making use of the
> > desired
> > > > > tools assuming the structure of the site
> > > > > 3.  provide orchestration of the core codebase and the site
> > > > >   a.  through Maven and possibly the exec or similar plugin,
> profile,
> > > or
> > > > > other avenue, build the codebase needed (mvn -pl -am may do the
> job)
> > > > >   b.  call the script to generate the static structure of the site
> > > which
> > > > > has a build target that is a copy of the svn checkout to make use
> of
> > > the
> > > > > diff (maybe there is a way to use git+svn to make this work in a
> less
> > > > > cumbersome manner)
> > > > > 4.  commit to infra subversion
> > > > >
> > > > > The code for the site is easily accessible and allows submission of
> > > > patches
> > > > > via git while using the tools that make sense for accomplishing
> what
> > is
> > > > > needed; Subversion just becomes the means for content delivery.
> > > > >
> > > > > There are certainly a number of details to iron out with the above
> > > plan.
> > > > > The biggest item is taking the disparate formats (asciidoc,
> processor
> > > > > documentation) and condensing them into the HTML/CSS template set
> > > forth,
> > > > > but both have provisions for specifying CSS, so it is certainly
> > doable.
> > > > > The above method allows for the avoidance of committing generated
> > files
> > > > to
> > > > > the core codebase (obviously, all generated files compose the SVN
> > > site),
> > > > > and allows for a direct correlation between documentation and a
> given
> > > > > commit while simultaneously not binding the site explicitly to SVN
> or
> > > ASF
> > > > > CMS.
> > > > >
> > > > > One item that seems problematic with the above plan is that it
> would
> > > > remove
> > > > > the ease of submitting a patch via the provided bookmarklet that
> > works
> > > > with
> > > > > the CMS.  This becomes a manual process to find the source content
> > and
> > > > > apply the patch to it in Git.  Although to some extent, this is
> > already
> > > > the
> > > > > case given the use of Asciidoc and the Processor documentation.
> Not
> > > sure
> > > > > if it is a deal breaker or not, but it is a point of consideration.
> > > > >
> > > > > [1]
> > https://github.com/jclouds/jclouds-site/blob/master/deploy-site.sh
> > > > > [2] http://www.apache.org/dev/cms.html#external
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Jennifer Barnabee <
> > > > > [hidden email]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > You guys are totally right.  Ok, as a starting point, what about
> > this
> > > > or
> > > > > > something like this?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Apache NiFi is a highly configurable and intuitive dataflow
> > > management
> > > > > > system.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Jenn
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Donald Miner <
> > > [hidden email]>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Same here, never heard of fbp.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I like the Accumulo blurb on the front page a lot:
> > > > > > > The Apache Accumulo™ sorted, distributed key/value store is a
> > > robust,
> > > > > > > scalable, high performance data storage and retrieval system.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > (I think i based my suggestion on this). It just gets to the
> > point
> > > > and
> > > > > as
> > > > > > > a technologist that has a clue or two I know what it is trying
> to
> > > do.
> > > > > > > Another example Kafka: "A high-throughput distributed messaging
> > > > > system. "
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Jan 29, 2015, at 5:07 PM, Joey Echeverria <
> [hidden email]
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Just to clarify, I wasn't advocating that it should be
> removed
> > > (I'm
> > > > > not
> > > > > > > > really advocating for anything). My point was meant to
> > illustrate
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > it's
> > > > > > > > not a draw, but it is potentially an educational reference.
> So,
> > > it
> > > > > > > depends
> > > > > > > > on how you want to use the real-estate in the tag line.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Thu Jan 29 2015 at 11:19:38 AM Joe Witt <
> [hidden email]
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> We can get rid of the FBP reference.  I'll just be the
> excited
> > > > tech
> > > > > > guy
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > >> the corner of the conference that keeps talking about it.
> > > > > > > >>>> On Jan 29, 2015 1:00 PM, "Joey Echeverria" <
> > [hidden email]>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> I understand that flow-based programming is very important
> as
> > > the
> > > > > > model
> > > > > > > >> of
> > > > > > > >>> NiFi, but I don't think it's a widely understood term.
> FWIW,
> > I
> > > > > hadn't
> > > > > > > >> heard
> > > > > > > >>> of it until I started working with NiFi.
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> On Thu Jan 29 2015 at 9:56:10 AM Jennifer Barnabee <
> > > > > > > >>> [hidden email]> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>> Hi Donald,
> > > > > > > >>>> I like your tagline sentence for the most part. Thanks so
> > much
> > > > for
> > > > > > > >>> sending
> > > > > > > >>>> it. Maybe it can get us to where we want to be...
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> I have these thoughts to add...
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> a) I think we want to honor that flow-based programming is
> > the
> > > > > basis
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > >>> the
> > > > > > > >>>> software. So, that's important, and I think that's why it
> > went
> > > > > into
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >>>> tagline. But I'm not sure whether it has to be
> specifically
> > > > there.
> > > > > > > >>> Someone
> > > > > > > >>>> else can weigh in on that.
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> b) My only problem with your tagline is the last part:
> > > > "transform
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > >>> move
> > > > > > > >>>> files". One thing is - we don't want to limit NiFi to
> being
> > > only
> > > > > > > >>>> file-based. Secondly, moving and transforming data is not
> > all
> > > > that
> > > > > > > NiFi
> > > > > > > >>>> does. In truth, NiFi is not just a dataflow system. It's a
> > > > > dataflow
> > > > > > > >>>> management system. And that encompasses everything about
> the
> > > > > > dataflow,
> > > > > > > >>> from
> > > > > > > >>>> how the data moves and/or gets transformed and routed, to
> > how
> > > > you
> > > > > > > >> monitor
> > > > > > > >>>> that, how you track down the data, how you configure and
> > > design
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > >>>> dataflow to be better, etc.  The moving and transforming
> > parts
> > > > are
> > > > > > > just
> > > > > > > >>>> some of the extension points. It's the framework that
> allows
> > > you
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > >>> manage
> > > > > > > >>>> *whatever* you do with the data.
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> So, now that I've rambled on, it's clear that I can't come
> > up
> > > > with
> > > > > > > >>>> something concise. I think I may be too close to
> everything
> > > :-)
> > > > > > > >>>> But I think you are on the right track! I would be happy
> to
> > > know
> > > > > > what
> > > > > > > >>>> others think. It would be great if people could land on
> the
> > > page
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > >>>> quickly understand what NiFi is. So far, your sentence
> would
> > > get
> > > > > > > people
> > > > > > > >>>> closer to that than anything I have proposed.
> > > > > > > >>>> Cheers,
> > > > > > > >>>> Jenn
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:36 AM, Donald Miner <
> > > > > > [hidden email]
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> On the subject of taglines, a minor nitpick (sorry). I'm
> > > just a
> > > > > fan
> > > > > > > >> of
> > > > > > > >>>>> concise and meaningful taglines.
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> "is a dataflow system based on the concepts of flow-based
> > > > > > > >> programming.
> > > > > > > >>> It
> > > > > > > >>>>> is currently a part of the Apache Incubator." is rather
> > > wordy.
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> "flow" and "based" are in this sentence twice, which
> makes
> > it
> > > > > kind
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > >>>>> awkward. Does flow-based programming really matter enough
> > to
> > > be
> > > > > > part
> > > > > > > >> of
> > > > > > > >>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>> tagline? Maybe it should just be a bullet point below.
> Same
> > > > with
> > > > > > > >>>> incubator
> > > > > > > >>>>> status... I think that's readily available information
> that
> > > > > doesn't
> > > > > > > >>>>> necessarily need to be in the tagline (and would
> eventually
> > > > > > change).
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> Here's my stab:
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> "The Apache NiFi dataflow system is an easy to use,
> highly
> > > > > > > >>> configurable,
> > > > > > > >>>>> extendable, and reliable way to transform and move
> files."
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> I think the list of properties in the middle of my
> sentence
> > > > could
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > > >>>>> replaced by someone who has a better idea of what the
> true
> > > > > sticking
> > > > > > > >>>> points
> > > > > > > >>>>> for NiFi will be.
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> -d
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Joe Witt <
> > > [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>> Jenn
> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>> Apologies for the delayed feedback.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>> I agree it could be more concise but feel like the
> > proposed
> > > is
> > > > > too
> > > > > > > >>>>> concise
> > > > > > > >>>>>> to as have lost some important meaning.  Many projects
> > claim
> > > > > > > >> they're
> > > > > > > >>>>>> lightweight, scalable, and easy to use and almost always
> > > that
> > > > > just
> > > > > > > >>>> isn't
> > > > > > > >>>>>> true.  We're arguably not 'lightweight' anymore.  We
> could
> > > > have
> > > > > > > >> said
> > > > > > > >>>> that
> > > > > > > >>>>>> when it was a 6 MB download perhaps but now that we're
> > > > weighing
> > > > > in
> > > > > > > >> at
> > > > > > > >>>>>> 100MB's we probably shouldn't claim that on its own.
> > We're
> > > > > > > >> certainly
> > > > > > > >>>>>> 'lightweight' in many important aspects and arguably in
> > all
> > > > the
> > > > > > > >> ways
> > > > > > > >>>> that
> > > > > > > >>>>>> truly matter but we should be at least somewhat
> > specific.  I
> > > > > agree
> > > > > > > >>>> we're
> > > > > > > >>>>>> scalable but again without context that feels
> > misleading.  I
> > > > > agree
> > > > > > > >> we
> > > > > > > >>>>> have
> > > > > > > >>>>>> an extremely nice UI that is indeed highly configurable
> > and
> > > > > > > >> intuitive
> > > > > > > >>>> but
> > > > > > > >>>>>> the same thoughts apply which is we should provide some
> > > > context
> > > > > as
> > > > > > > >> to
> > > > > > > >>>>> what
> > > > > > > >>>>>> we mean.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>> This is the nice part of this as an open source thing.
> We
> > > can
> > > > > > just
> > > > > > > >>> be
> > > > > > > >>>>>> straight up and precise about the features and what
> > they're
> > > > good
> > > > > > > >> for
> > > > > > > >>>> and
> > > > > > > >>>>>> what they do.  We can even be self deprecating and point
> > out
> > > > > what
> > > > > > > >>> we're
> > > > > > > >>>>> not
> > > > > > > >>>>>> good at.  If it were a commercial construct or we were
> > > > marketing
> > > > > > > >> then
> > > > > > > >>>> we
> > > > > > > >>>>>> might need to be less specific so as not to exclude some
> > > > > potential
> > > > > > > >>>>> business
> > > > > > > >>>>>> area.  But in this case, we're a tiny little open source
> > > > project
> > > > > > > >> that
> > > > > > > >>>>> very
> > > > > > > >>>>>> few people know about.  We're only going to grow by
> being
> > > > > > > >>>> straightforward
> > > > > > > >>>>>> about what it is and attracting those who buy in to that
> > > > vision
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > >>>>>> direction.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>> Just thoughts here - i am not asking you to avoid
> changing
> > > it
> > > > > > > >> should
> > > > > > > >>>> you
> > > > > > > >>>>>> feel really strongly that you want to change it.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>> Thanks
> > > > > > > >>>>>> Joe
> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 6:04 AM, Jennifer Barnabee <
> > > > > > > >>>>>> [hidden email]> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Hi Matt et al -
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> The new website design is looking great...  I feel like
> > the
> > > > > text
> > > > > > > >>>> needs
> > > > > > > >>>>> to
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> be simpler and more to the point.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> For the tagline under the first Apache nifi heading, I
> > > > suggest
> > > > > > > >>> making
> > > > > > > >>>>> it
> > > > > > > >>>>>> a
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> bullet rather than including the verb "is". I'd also
> like
> > > to
> > > > > make
> > > > > > > >>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> features into simpler bullets. See my suggested text
> > > below. I
> > > > > > > >> hope
> > > > > > > >>> it
> > > > > > > >>>>>> still
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> captures the essence of what we want to convey, but
> > others
> > > > may
> > > > > > > >> have
> > > > > > > >>>>> good
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> suggestions as well...  For example, in the last
> bullet,
> > I
> > > > > don't
> > > > > > > >>> know
> > > > > > > >>>>> if
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> "client" would be better than "user" or if
> > "authentication"
> > > > > would
> > > > > > > >>> be
> > > > > > > >>>>>> better
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> than "authorization". You guys probably have a better
> > > handle
> > > > on
> > > > > > > >>> that
> > > > > > > >>>>> type
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> of stuff.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> *Apache nifi *
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> - A dataflow system based on the concepts of flow-based
> > > > > > > >>> programming.
> > > > > > > >>>> It
> > > > > > > >>>>>> is
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> currently a part of the Apache Incubator.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Apache NiFi supports powerful and scalable directed
> > graphs
> > > of
> > > > > > > >> data
> > > > > > > >>>>>> routing,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> transformation, and system mediation logic. High-level
> > > > features
> > > > > > > >>>>> include:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Lightweight
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Scalable
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Highly Configurable
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Intuitive User Interface
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Component-based Extension Model
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Fine Grained Data Provenance
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Enterprise & Inter-system Security
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Content Encryption/Decryption
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Pluggable SSL & PKI User Authorization
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> *I kinda don't like that you have to scroll down to see
> > all
> > > > the
> > > > > > > >>>>> features.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> But I realize it wouldn't bother me if I was looking at
> > it
> > > on
> > > > > my
> > > > > > > >>>> phone,
> > > > > > > >>>>>> so
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> I don't know why I'm complaining about that... *
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Cheers,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Jenn
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 11:43 PM, Matt Gilman <
> > > > > > > >>>> [hidden email]
> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> I went ahead and started implementing the website
> based
> > on
> > > > the
> > > > > > > >>> most
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> recent
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> feedback and mock ups. I've done just the main page
> and
> > > put
> > > > it
> > > > > > > >>>> here:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> http://nifi.incubator.apache.org/v2/
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Please let me know if there's a more appropriate place
> > to
> > > > host
> > > > > > > >>>> that.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Anyways, I am going to continue working to port over
> the
> > > > > > > >>> remaining
> > > > > > > >>>>>> pages
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> and figure out a good way to integrate the
> documentation
> > > > that
> > > > > > > >> is
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> generated
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> from building NiFi. Part of that is likely going to
> > depend
> > > > on
> > > > > > > >>> what
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> repository the site is kept in. What I've done uses a
> > > number
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > >>>> tools
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> (grunt, assemble, bower, etc) to actually build the
> > site.
> > > I
> > > > > > > >>> believe
> > > > > > > >>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Apache CMS tool will be CMing the resulting site.
> Where
> > do
> > > > > > > >> others
> > > > > > > >>>> CM
> > > > > > > >>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> actual development artifacts of their sites? I did
> find
> > > > > another
> > > > > > > >>>>> Apache
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> project with a similar set up:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> https://github.com/jclouds/jclouds-site
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> and they appear to have a separate repository for
> there
> > > > site.
> > > > > > > >>>> Should
> > > > > > > >>>>> I
> > > > > > > >>>>>> be
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> requesting another repository for this? Or should I
> just
> > > add
> > > > > it
> > > > > > > >>> to
> > > > > > > >>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> existing incubator-nifi and have a top level folder
> for
> > > the
> > > > > > > >> site?
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Also, I also noticed that jclouds has a deployment
> > script
> > > > > which
> > > > > > > >>>>> appears
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> automate that process as well. Is this how most
> projects
> > > > > handle
> > > > > > > >>>> site
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> updates?
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Thanks.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Matt
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 8:24 PM, Aldrin Piri <
> > > > > > > >>> [hidden email]
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Seems like a fair list of points to resolve.  Let me
> > know
> > > > how
> > > > > > > >>> you
> > > > > > > >>>>>> want
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> to tackle it and if you'd like me to investigate any
> of
> > > > them.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> AsciiDoc provides an HTML5 backend [1] that should
> > > provide
> > > > a
> > > > > > > >>> hook
> > > > > > > >>>>> to
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> help it be consistent in some form with the rest of
> the
> > > > site.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> [1]
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > http://www.methods.co.nz/asciidoc/asciidoc.css-embedded.html#X35
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 8:10 AM, Matt Gilman <
> > > > > > > >>>>>> [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Agreed. Lets see give it a try and see how it
> looks. I
> > > > > > > >>> thought
> > > > > > > >>>>>> about
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> possibly just putting the drop in the toolbar but
> held
> > > off
> > > > > > > >>>>>> initially
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> but
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> your comment about being consistently visible across
> > all
> > > > > > > >>> pages
> > > > > > > >>>> is
> > > > > > > >>>>>> on
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> point.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> This brings up another issue that the current
> > > > documentation
> > > > > > > >>>> loads
> > > > > > > >>>>>> in
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> a
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> page
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> without the toolbar so that'll have to be addressed.
> > > > > > > >> Haven't
> > > > > > > >>>>> messed
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> with
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> bootstrap so I'll have to see what's possible.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Outstanding issues...
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> - Better integrate documentation pages into website
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> - Get updated images (and properly scale them)
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> - Update website markup for production use (what I
> did
> > > was
> > > > > > > >>>> quick
> > > > > > > >>>>>> and
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> just
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> for the mockup so we continue this discussion)
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Anything else I'm forgetting?
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 12:26 AM, Aldrin Piri <
> > > > > > > >>>>>> [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Matt,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Looks good here.  I think clean and simple is the
> > right
> > > > > > > >>>>> direction
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> and
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> this
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> is just another step in that evolution. I think it
> > is a
> > > > > > > >>> matter
> > > > > > > >>>>> of
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> nit-picking at this point so the following comments
> > > come
> > > > > > > >>> with
> > > > > > > >>>>> that
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> scope of
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> importance.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I would like to see the logo make it somewhere on
> the
> > > > page
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> consistently
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> for
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the sake of keeping it across all pages in the
> > site.  I
> > > > > > > >>>> realize
> > > > > > > >>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> logo in
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the navbar is rather redundant for the home page,
> but
> > > on
> > > > > > > >> all
> > > > > > > >>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> other
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> pages such as documentation and general project
> > > > > > > >> information,
> > > > > > > >>>>> there
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> will
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> be
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> no presence in the current state.  One way to
> > > compromise
> > > > > > > >>> might
> > > > > > > >>>>> be
> > > > > > > >>>>>> to
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> make
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> use of the commonplace technique where the logo on
> > the
> > > > > > > >> main
> > > > > > > >>>>>> content
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> area
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> gets placed into the navbar when scrolling would
> > > obscure
> > > > > > > >> the
> > > > > > > >>>>> logo;
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> all
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> other pages would then just have it in the header.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Maybe a slightly heavier weight on the navbar for
> the
> > > > menu
> > > > > > > >>>>> items.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 22:51 Matt Gilman <
> > > > > > > >>>>>> [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Aldrin,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> I like what you did here and it sounds like most
> > > people
> > > > > > > >> do
> > > > > > > >>>>> too.
> > > > > > > >>>>>> I
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wanted
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> provide some feedback and minor suggestions but
> > > thought
> > > > > > > >> it
> > > > > > > >>>>> would
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> just
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> be
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> easier to mock it up myself rather than trying to
> > ask
> > > > > > > >> you
> > > > > > > >>> to
> > > > > > > >>>>>> move
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> this
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> here
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> and that there. Anyways, take a peek and lets
> > continue
> > > > > > > >>>>>> iterating.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> I
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> think
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> we're on the right track.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://raw.githubusercontent.
> > > > > > > >>>> com/mcgilman/apache-nifi-site/
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> screenshots/index.html.lite.v1.2.png
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Matt
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 10:05 PM, Joe Witt <
> > > > > > > >>>>> [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dan,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> No real thought behind it.  But I personally
> agree
> > > > > > > >> with
> > > > > > > >>>> your
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> statement:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the logos look good as "nifi" and the text looks
> > good
> > > > > > > >> as
> > > > > > > >>>>>> "NiFi"
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 10:03 PM, Daniel Bress <
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aldrin,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   I think this looks good.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> All,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Maybe this is a little off topic, but I
> noticed
> > > > > > > >>> that
> > > > > > > >>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> logos
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> consistently use "nifi" whereas in text its
> > > > > > > >>> consistently
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> written
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> as
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "NiFi".  Any reason for the difference?
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   I kind of thing the logos look good as "nifi"
> > and
> > > > > > > >>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>> text
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> looks
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> good
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> as "NiFi" so I might be questioning something
> > that I
> > > > > > > >>> am
> > > > > > > >>>> OK
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> with.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> But I
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> noticed they are different and was wondering if
> > this
> > > > > > > >>>> was a
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> conscious
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> decision or not.  Thoughts?
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dan Bress
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Software Engineer
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ONYX Consulting Services
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________________
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Joe Witt <[hidden email]>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 6:40 PM
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [hidden email]
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Website Theme
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Solid design and agree with all your comments
> > > > > > > >> aldrin.
> > > > > > > >>>>> Very
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> nice
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2015 6:27 PM, "Aldrin Piri" <
> > > > > > > >>>>>> [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the comments.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I actuality tried it without the logo on the
> main
> > > > > > > >>> page
> > > > > > > >>>>> and
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> it
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> felt
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> a
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bit empty.  I don't know that we necessarily
> need
> > > > > > > >>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>> logo
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> there,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> but
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something is needed.  Additionally, I viewed it
> > as
> > > > > > > >>>> being
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> just
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> a
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> "front
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page" inclusion, as other pages would just have
> > > > > > > >> the
> > > > > > > >>>> top
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> navbar.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You caught me.  I was lazy and I recycled the
> > > > > > > >>>> screenshot
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> from
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first iteration.  It would definitely need
> > > > > > > >> updating,
> > > > > > > >>>> but
> > > > > > > >>>>>> is
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> largely
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just a placeholder for the concept.  I would
> > > > > > > >>>> definitely
> > > > > > > >>>>>> like
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> something
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a bit more engaging.  (faux edit) I rearranged
> > > > > > > >>> things
> > > > > > > >>>> a
> > > > > > > >>>>>> bit,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> removing
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the second instance of the logo and placing
> more
> > > > > > > >>>>> emphasis
> > > > > > > >>>>>> on
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> one
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the corner of the application.  Not sure if
> I
> > > > > > > >>> like
> > > > > > > >>>> it
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> better,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> but
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've provided the results [1] with all three of
> > > > > > > >> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> submissions
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> shown
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in chronological order [2].
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The news section is a toss-up for me at this
> > > > > > > >>> juncture.
> > > > > > > >>>>> I
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> could
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> see
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the need one for eventually, but I'm not sure
> if
> > > > > > > >> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>> project
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> is
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> quite
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there yet.  It seemed a common thread among
> > > > > > > >>> incubating
> > > > > > > >>>>>> sites
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> that
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> such
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a section was omitted whereas those top-level
> > > > > > > >>> projects
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> typically
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> included one.  Given that the project is on the
> > > > > > > >>> verge
> > > > > > > >>>> on
> > > > > > > >>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> first
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> of
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the regular releases, perhaps this is
> > increasingly
> > > > > > > >>>>>> pertinent
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> in
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> near future.  At minimum, one of the screen
> grabs
> > > > > > > >>> from
> > > > > > > >>>>>> your
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> blog
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> posts
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be a good candidate.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > https://raw.githubusercontent.com/apiri/apache-nifi-site/scr
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> eenshots/index.html.lite.v1.1.png
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >
> > https://github.com/apiri/apache-nifi-site/blob/screenshots/README.md
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Mark Payne <
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> [hidden email]
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aldrin,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm liking it! Definitely looks nice. Though I
> > > > > > > >>> would
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> provide a
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> bit
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> of
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feedback:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure that I would include the NiFi
> logo
> > > > > > > >> on
> > > > > > > >>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> right-hand
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> side,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since it's already in the top-left.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From a NiFi 'brand' perspective, I would
> update
> > > > > > > >>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> screenshot a
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> bit.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This screenshot is using the old logo in the
> > > > > > > >>> top-left
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> corner,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> and
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> graph
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shows all of the data disappearing before the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> RouteOnAttribute
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Processor.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd recommend we construct a dataflow that's
> more
> > > > > > > >>>>>> appealing
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> target
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> audience, perhaps integrating with other Apache
> > > > > > > >>>> projects
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> (HDFS,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Kafka
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> are
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible, for instance) or using (S)FTP
> > processor.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does it make sense to have maybe like a
> 'Latest
> > > > > > > >>>> News'
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> section
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> or
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something where we could post things like
> > "Version
> > > > > > > >>>> 0.0.1
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> just
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> released!"
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc.?
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm really liking the concept - nice job!
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks-Mark
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 07:00:52 -0800
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Website Theme
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: [hidden email]
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [hidden email]
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I like it.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 8:50 PM, Aldrin Piri
> <
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I found some time today to provide another
> > > > > > > >> look
> > > > > > > >>>> for
> > > > > > > >>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> site.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> There
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were very minor changes to the core HTML as
> > > > > > > >> is
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> currently
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> served
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> at
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nidi homepage and it is largely just a
> > > > > > > >>>> stylesheet.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> This
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> one
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> is
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> highly
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minimal and clean, still driven by Bootstrap
> > > > > > > >>> and
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> directly
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> makes
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> use
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the colors from the UI itself.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A screenshot can be seen at
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > https://raw.githubusercontent.com/apiri/apache-nifi-site/scr
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> eenshots/index.html.lite.png
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the associated code under the "lite"
> > > > > > > >>> branch
> > > > > > > >>>> at
> > > > > > > >>>>> https://github.com/apiri/apache-nifi-site/tree/lite
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any thoughts are appreciated.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 9:54 PM, Aldrin Piri
> <
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry if this somehow gets sent twice.   My
> > > > > > > >>>> first
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> submission
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> seemed
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bounce as it exceeded the spam threshold
> > > > > > > >>> when I
> > > > > > > >>>>>> sent
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> it a
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> couple
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hours ago and it has yet to appear, so I'm
> > > > > > > >>>>> sending
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> again.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> First and foremost, good feedback.  I think
> > > > > > > >>>> UI/UX
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> stuff
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> is
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> tricky
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am happy to find my livelihood in the
> > > > > > > >>>> plumbing
> > > > > > > >>>>>> and
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> behind
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scenes
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's my attempt to try and tackle all the
> > > > > > > >>>>>> comments
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> in
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> one
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> fell
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> swoop:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree that Bootstrap is everywhere, but I
> > > > > > > >>>> don't
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> necessarily
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is a bad thing.  One could argue that
> > > > > > > >>>>>> interfaces
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> of
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> all
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> forms
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> converging and users have the instant
> > > > > > > >>>> familiarity
> > > > > > > >>>>>> of
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> a
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> known
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quantity.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know that I am totally unaware of what it
> > > > > > > >>>> takes
> > > > > > > >>>>>> to
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> make a
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> site
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> functional and maintain its feel across
> > > > > > > >>>>> devices.  I
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> think
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> that
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> last
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> part is important.  Personally, as a user
> > > > > > > >> on
> > > > > > > >>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> other
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> side
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> of
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screen, I don't really understand why sites
> > > > > > > >>> do
> > > > > > > >>>>> not
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> work
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> or
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> jive
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my mobile device du jour these days; it
> > > > > > > >>> should
> > > > > > > >>>>> just
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> work.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> With
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> little I've learned about UX and "Not
> > > > > > > >> Making
> > > > > > > >>>>>> [Anyone]
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Think,"[1] I
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want an effortless experience; no pinch
> > > > > > > >>>> zooming,
> > > > > > > >>>>>> tap
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> panning,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> etc.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there is a way to take bits and pieces of
> > > > > > > >>>>> bootstrap
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> this
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> end
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support that aspect without the cookie
> > > > > > > >> cutter
> > > > > > > >>>>> air,
> > > > > > > >>>>>> I
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> would
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> be
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> quite
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thankful for some guidance on that front
> > > > > > > >> and
> > > > > > > >>> do
> > > > > > > >>>>> my
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> best
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> provide
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Out of the box though, the sample looked
> > > > > > > >>> pretty
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> decent
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> across
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> all
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> devices to which I had access, and used
> > > > > > > >>>>> constructs
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> everyone
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> who
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> views
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> content through a tiny screen is
> > > > > > > >> accustomed.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do agree on the front of the possibility
> > > > > > > >> of
> > > > > > > >>>>> brand
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> dilution,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think it is an excellent point for
> > > > > > > >>>> consideration.
> > > > > > > >>>>>> As
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> original mailing, consideration was given
> > > > > > > >> to
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> integrating
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> application's aesthetics into the core
> > > > > > > >> site.
> > > > > > > >>>> Not
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> sure
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> if
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> this
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pan out in an appreciable way as I can see
> > > > > > > >> it
> > > > > > > >>>> in
> > > > > > > >>>>> my
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> mind,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> but
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> I
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> do
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feel it is an avenue worth exploring.  It
> > > > > > > >> may
> > > > > > > >>>>> also
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> completely
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> miss
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mark, but with my new found web dev
> > > > > > > >> prowess,
> > > > > > > >>> it
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> should
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> be a
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> much
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quicker iteration than the first draft.
> > > > > > > >>> You'll
> > > > > > > >>>>>> see a
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> slight
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> homage
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this via the graph wallpaper that is
> > > > > > > >> featured
> > > > > > > >>>> in
> > > > > > > >>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> application
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> itself.  This was muted a bit by a CSS
> > > > > > > >>> overlay
> > > > > > > >>>>> to a
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> level
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> that
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seemed
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> okay, but I definitely hedged as to whether
> > > > > > > >>> or
> > > > > > > >>>>> not
> > > > > > > >>>>>> to
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> include
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ultimately, I wanted to get something out
> > > > > > > >> to
> > > > > > > >>>>> start
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> ball
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rolling,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> establishing a base for successive
> > > > > > > >>>> iterations.  I
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> know
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> that
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> with
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the hard work everyone is putting in, the
> > > > > > > >>>> project
> > > > > > > >>>>>> is
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> closely
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reaching
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its first milestone for release, and
> > > > > > > >> thought
> > > > > > > >>> it
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> important to
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> chip
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where possible to give a face to the
> > > > > > > >> project.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Additionally, I think this particular
> > > > > > > >> project
> > > > > > > >>>>> needs
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> pictures
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> demonstrate what it's capabilities.  One of
> > > > > > > >>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> facets
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> that
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> makes
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me a
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believer about NiFi as a whole is that the
> > > > > > > >>> end
> > > > > > > >>>>> user
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> is
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> not
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> just
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> developers.  Citing the previous example of
> > > > > > > >>>>>> Accumulo,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> its
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> intended
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> audience is very technical in nature and,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> accordingly,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> a
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> lot
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> can
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expressed via the simple phrase of
> > > > > > > >> "key-value
> > > > > > > >>>>>> store."
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> I
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> would
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contend
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that NiFi's reach is far broader and can't
> > > > > > > >> be
> > > > > > > >>>>> done
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> justice
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> with
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simple phrase.  For the casual potential
> > > > > > > >> user
> > > > > > > >>>> who
> > > > > > > >>>>>> has
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> strung
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> together
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> n-many processes of taking a file, manually
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> transforming
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> it,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> and
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moving it elsewhere, they need to see at
> > > > > > > >>> quick
> > > > > > > >>>>>> glance
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> that
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> there
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something that can automate this tedium and
> > > > > > > >>>> make
> > > > > > > >>>>>> them
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> more
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effective.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Succinctly, the value proposition needs to
> > > > > > > >> be
> > > > > > > >>>>> there
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> not
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> only
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> for
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> technical folks who will use this as a
> > > > > > > >>>> framework,
> > > > > > > >>>>>> but
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> additionally
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> end users.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The background for the header isn't
> > > > > > > >> awesome,
> > > > > > > >>>> but
> > > > > > > >>>>> I
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> knew I
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wasn't
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> violating any licenses if I generated it
> > > > > > > >>>>> myself.  I
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> viewed
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> it
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> more
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a placeholder than anything else.
> > > > > > > >> Definitely
> > > > > > > >>>>> not a
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> front
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> end
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> web
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> developer, even more definitively not a
> > > > > > > >>> graphic
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> artist.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> The
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> colors
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> came from starting with the logo dark blue
> > > > > > > >>> and
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> running
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> a
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> whole
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bunch
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of filters and plugins via GIMP to get
> > > > > > > >>>> something.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Additionally,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a CSS gradient applied over top of it as
> > > > > > > >>>> well
> > > > > > > >>>>>> when
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> it
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> seemed
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bit
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too loud.  It could definitely deal with
> > > > > > > >>> being
> > > > > > > >>>>>> muted
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> a
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> bit
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> more.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] http://www.sensible.com/dmmt.html
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 12:57 PM, Tony Kurc
> > > > > > > >> <
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey! It looks awesome! The existing site
> > > > > > > >> was
> > > > > > > >>>> put
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> together a
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> placeholder
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we went with a very generic layout that
> > > > > > > >>> worked
> > > > > > > >>>>>> well
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> with
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CMS and
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contained all the information expected of
> > > > > > > >> an
> > > > > > > >>>>>> apache
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> process.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a big improvement! For people new
> > > > > > > >> to
> > > > > > > >>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> project,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> it
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> gives
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nice
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> upfront screenshot, with big fat links for
> > > > > > > >>>>> things
> > > > > > > >>>>>> I
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> care
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> about
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seeing!
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some things I didn't like about the
> > > > > > > >> existing
> > > > > > > >>>>> site
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> are
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> glyphicon
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to "external" sites on the menu. I used
> > > > > > > >>>> "link",
> > > > > > > >>>>>> but
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> I
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> think
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> it
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meant to
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be used for "permalink". Also, we kind of
> > > > > > > >>>> took a
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> best
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> guess
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> about
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should go in each dropdown in the menu.
> > > > > > > >> I'm
> > > > > > > >>>>> pretty
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> sure
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> it
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> could
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> organized. I'd also like to see the
> > > > > > > >> awesome
> > > > > > > >>>>> guides
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> that
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> people
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consistent theme with the website and
> > > > > > > >> maybe
> > > > > > > >>>> have
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> pdfs
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> so
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> old-school
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folks
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can print them out (which may be a dumb
> > > > > > > >> idea
> > > > > > > >>>> ;)
> > > > > > > >>>>> )
> > > > > > > >>>>>> A
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> pet
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> peeve
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mine of
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> projects is having a hard time finding the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> documentation I
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> need,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> javadocs or specifications - and keeping
> > > > > > > >>>> around
> > > > > > > >>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> older
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> versions
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documentation. I think we're still working
> > > > > > > >>> on
> > > > > > > >>>>>> these
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> -
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> since
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> you
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> retained
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the menu up top it should be
> > > > > > > >> straightforward
> > > > > > > >>>> to
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> have a
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> robust
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documentation
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dropdown.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The blue you used is more of a reddish or
> > > > > > > >>>>> purplish
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> blue
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> -
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> blue
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> used
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the app is more of a greenish blue. I'm
> > > > > > > >> kind
> > > > > > > >>>> of
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> curious
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> what
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> a
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> greener
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blue
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would look like ... did you mock one up
> > > > > > > >> and
> > > > > > > >>> it
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> looked
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> bad?
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Or
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe a
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fundamental question, should the website
> > > > > > > >>> evoke
> > > > > > > >>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> theme of
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> app? I
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't know how I feel.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tony
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Joe Witt
> > > > > > > >> <
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd say the two sides of the spectrum as
> > > > > > > >>>>> examples
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> are:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://kafka.apache.org/  [super
> > > > > > > >>> minimalist]
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://aurora.incubator.apache.org/ [
> > > > > > > >>> quite
> > > > > > > >>>>>> fancy
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> looking ]
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Both in my opinion are beautifully done
> > > > > > > >> and
> > > > > > > >>>>> make
> > > > > > > >>>>>> it
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> easy
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> get
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> content
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needed.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think these (and others) provide great
> > > > > > > >>>>> examples
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> that
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> both
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sides
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spectrum have merit.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is most important to me is that we
> > > > > > > >> as
> > > > > > > >>> a
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> community
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> rally
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> behind
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the expertise and willingness to
> > > > > > > >>>>> contribute
> > > > > > > >>>>>> in
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> this
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> space.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Joe
> > > > > > > >> Witt <
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Both are bootstrap based.  Each is an
> > > > > > > >>>>> iterative
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> improvement.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And we
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep iterating as folks have time,
> > > > > > > >>>>> willingness,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> and
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> expertise
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree that this new look does not
> > > > > > > >>>>>> distinguish a
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> brand.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> But
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we're
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mature enough to worry about that yet.
> > > > > > > >>> We
> > > > > > > >>>>> just
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> need
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> enough
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info laid out enough to help grow a
> > > > > > > >>>> community
> > > > > > > >>>>>> and
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> get
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> folks
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need.  We need it laid out in a way
> > > > > > > >> that
> > > > > > > >>>>>> multiple
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> folks
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> can
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contribute.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once we have a release, recruit some
> > > > > > > >>>>>> committers,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> demonstrate
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> progress on
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Apache Way and grow then perhaps
> > > > > > > >>>> branding
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> becomes a
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> bigger
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deal.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ..this motivates me to spawn another
> > > > > > > >>> thread
> > > > > > > >>>>>> about
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> type
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to be...
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Adam
> > > > > > > >>> Taft
> > > > > > > >>>> <
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This isn't a downvote -- I think it
> > > > > > > >>> indeed
> > > > > > > >>>>>> looks
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> good.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> But
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> terms of
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> constructive criticism...
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the mockup looks like a very
> > > > > > > >>>> generic
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> "bootstrap"
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> site,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> similar
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> million other bootstrap based sites.
> > > > > > > >>> I'd
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> personally
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> almost
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prefer
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> existing utilitarian website over a
> > > > > > > >>>>> bootstrap
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> theme,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> simply
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't try to be anything more than
> > > > > > > >>> what
> > > > > > > >>>> it
> > > > > > > >>>>>> is.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This approach might be an acceptable
> > > > > > > >>>>> tradeoff
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> for
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> project;
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> having
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bootstrap look & feel is obviously a
> > > > > > > >>>>> resource
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> savings
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> and
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right price point.  But the site
> > > > > > > >> mockup
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> definitely
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distinguish
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache NiFi "brand" in anyway. In fact
> > > > > > > >>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> opposite,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> brand
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gets
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> watered
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> down with this look.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As a funny side note, humorously for
> > > > > > > >> me,
> > > > > > > >>>>> this
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> was
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> first
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> head when I saw the site:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2010-04-01/
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Adam
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 7:39 PM, Aldrin
> > > > > > > >>>> Piri
> > > > > > > >>>>> <
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In partial fulfillment of the goals
> > > > > > > >> of
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> NIFI-162, I
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> set
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> some
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aside
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> put together something a bit more
> > > > > > > >>>> visually
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> appealing
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> as a
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> face
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My work can be found at:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apiri/apache-nifi-site
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently, work focused around the
> > > > > > > >>>>> homepage,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> but
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> similar
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> styles
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> applied to more content driven pages
> > > > > > > >>>> minus
> > > > > > > >>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> large
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> headlining
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sections.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The relevant technology colophon is
> > > > > > > >>>>> provided
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> in
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> README
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Github
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but is
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> primarily driven by Bootstrap,
> > > > > > > >>> existing
> > > > > > > >>>>>> image
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> resources
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> included
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project and current site, and other
> > > > > > > >>>>>> "artwork"
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> which I
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> created
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> myself.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am neither a UX expert nor am I a
> > > > > > > >>>>> renowned
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> front
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> end
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> designer,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> input is welcome.  As a "version
> > > > > > > >> 1.1"
> > > > > > > >>> I
> > > > > > > >>>>>> would
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> like to
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> adjust
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> converge more with the application.
> > > > > > > >>>> Ideas
> > > > > > > >>>>>> for
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> this
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> are
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inclusive
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> points
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> such as bringing the toolbar styling
> > > > > > > >>> and
> > > > > > > >>>>>> color
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> scheme
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> from
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> application
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the site.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If this seems like a reasonable path
> > > > > > > >>>>> forward
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> and
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> there
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> is
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sufficient
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support, I can look at the next
> > > > > > > >> steps
> > > > > > > >>> to
> > > > > > > >>>>> get
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> this
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> integrated
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project, optimization, and
> > > > > > > >> integration
> > > > > > > >>>>> with
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> application
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> itself.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To aid in showing the intangibles
> > > > > > > >> that
> > > > > > > >>>>> can't
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> be
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> seen
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> from
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> an
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> image, I
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a copy of this design hosted at
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://aldrinpiri.com/apache-nifi/.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links are currently nonfunctional as
> > > > > > > >>>> they
> > > > > > > >>>>>> were
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> taken
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> from
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> current
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --Aldrin
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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Re: Website Theme

Matt Gilman
I have an idea of how its going to work. However, once we reach out to
infrastructure regarding the external build (if necessary) we'll know for
sure [1]. After that discussion I will update nifi-site in our Git repo
accordingly. It says that the mailing list is infrastructure@, does that
mean [hidden email]?

Mark had an idea about an updated screenshot but higher priority things
have popped up. The image can be updated whenever its ready [2].

If you have any other ideas for media we should incorporate (other
screenshots, FAQs, videos, etc) let me know.

[1] http://www.apache.org/dev/cms.html#external
[2]
https://github.com/apache/incubator-nifi/blob/develop/nifi-site/src/images/flow.png

On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 9:17 AM, Joe Witt <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Matt
>
> It looks good.  Before we switch we should get the mechanics of update
> documented.   Do you know that or is it TBD?
>
> Also do you need assistance with updating the screenshot?
>
> Joe
> On Feb 8, 2015 4:45 AM, "Matt Gilman" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Barring any objections, I'd like to more forward with the updated website
> > [1]. I've kept up with the changes with the exception of those from the
> > last few days. Assuming everyone is on board I will reach out to INFRA
> > about the possibilities for the website build. Based on that
> conservation I
> > will update the nifi-site in our Git repo [2] accordingly. I am assuming
> > that we'll be doing an external build and part of that build will be
> > deploying the site using SVN.
> >
> > [1] https://nifi.incubator.apache.org/v2/
> > [2] https://github.com/apache/incubator-nifi/tree/develop/nifi-site
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 3:28 AM, Jennifer Barnabee <
> > [hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > > I think that's perfect!
> > >
> > > On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 10:08 PM, Joe Witt <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello
> > > >
> > > > Made some of these suggested edits/simplifications to the current
> site.
> > > > New tagline
> > > >
> > > > "Apache NiFi is an easy to use, powerful, and reliable system to
> > process
> > > > and distribute data."
> > > >
> > > > Also removed the jumbotron block as it was causing some really
> strange
> > > text
> > > > sizing issues.
> > > >
> > > > Jenn - does this seem more like what you were thinking?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Joe
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 11:03 PM, Matt Gilman <
> [hidden email]
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Aldrin,
> > > > >
> > > > > What you've outline is exactly what I am looking to accomplish, I'm
> > > just
> > > > > trying to figure out all the pieces. I think I have a handle on
> > > > everything
> > > > > except actual publishing of the site. Though I believe the email
> you
> > > sent
> > > > > out earlier indicates that we just need to discuss the matter
> further
> > > > with
> > > > > infrastructure@ mailing list. I tried committing a change (outside
> > of
> > > > CMS)
> > > > > to the staging repository hoping it would kick off the publishing.
> It
> > > did
> > > > > not.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have prototyped the site artifacts which can be built into the
> > static
> > > > > site. I still need to copy over the existing content but I'm trying
> > to
> > > > > figure out where this is going to live first. Barring any
> objections
> > I
> > > am
> > > > > going to create (likely tomorrow) a nifi-site directory at the root
> > of
> > > > our
> > > > > Git repository and go from there. Currently everything is living
> in a
> > > > > repository that I forked from the work that Aldrin had started.
> > > Anyways,
> > > > I
> > > > > believe moving it to the project Git repository puts the site in a
> > more
> > > > > accessible place where others can contribute as necessary.
> > > > >
> > > > > As I mentioned to Dan earlier, I am hoping that we can utilize a
> > maven
> > > > > plugin [1] to deploy the relevant documentation (processor, guides,
> > > > > javadocs) from the application build to a predefined location. The
> > site
> > > > > would just reference it from there. This would keep the site and
> > > > > application builds independent which I think is desirable.
> > > > >
> > > > > [1] http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-scm-publish-plugin/
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 10:30 PM, Aldrin Piri <
> [hidden email]>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > All the comments have been good but are a bit beyond where the
> > > current
> > > > > > platform for them needs to be.  Additionally, with a site more
> > > > accessible
> > > > > > and live, changes can be made via contributions. Trying to route
> > > things
> > > > > > back on topic a bit as there are external dependencies on some
> > > > > "finalized"
> > > > > > state of the site, I did some research into how other projects
> are
> > > > > > accomplishing this based off of Matt's notes.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Matt, looking at jclouds, it appears as though they also use the
> > ASF
> > > > > > infrastructure to manage their site, but perform a build through
> a
> > > > script
> > > > > > [1], invoking Jekyll to generate the static pages pushed to the
> > infra
> > > > > SVN;
> > > > > > it is a home-brewed git+svn of sorts, but the overall concept
> makes
> > > > > sense.
> > > > > > Given the technologies you listed, this seems like a fair
> approach
> > to
> > > > > > utilize the build tools right for the job while simultaneously
> not
> > > > > > requiring a special setup as outlined in the Apache CMS
> information
> > > > [2],
> > > > > > the community can freely pick the technologies they wish with the
> > > > notion
> > > > > > that the interface between site code and the actual view is
> static
> > > html
> > > > > > committed to the Infra SVN repo.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The one area that I think is important to address though is the
> > > > > > incorporation of the material being generated in the git
> repository
> > > and
> > > > > as
> > > > > > a product of the build process.  Quickly brainstorming a way to
> > > attack
> > > > > this
> > > > > > would be:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1.  provide a top level folder in the NiFi git repository, 'site'
> > > > (Matt
> > > > > > posed this as a possibility to which no one had any objections,
> so
> > it
> > > > > seems
> > > > > > like a reasonable path forward)
> > > > > > 2.  provide a script that compiles the site, making use of the
> > > desired
> > > > > > tools assuming the structure of the site
> > > > > > 3.  provide orchestration of the core codebase and the site
> > > > > >   a.  through Maven and possibly the exec or similar plugin,
> > profile,
> > > > or
> > > > > > other avenue, build the codebase needed (mvn -pl -am may do the
> > job)
> > > > > >   b.  call the script to generate the static structure of the
> site
> > > > which
> > > > > > has a build target that is a copy of the svn checkout to make use
> > of
> > > > the
> > > > > > diff (maybe there is a way to use git+svn to make this work in a
> > less
> > > > > > cumbersome manner)
> > > > > > 4.  commit to infra subversion
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The code for the site is easily accessible and allows submission
> of
> > > > > patches
> > > > > > via git while using the tools that make sense for accomplishing
> > what
> > > is
> > > > > > needed; Subversion just becomes the means for content delivery.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There are certainly a number of details to iron out with the
> above
> > > > plan.
> > > > > > The biggest item is taking the disparate formats (asciidoc,
> > processor
> > > > > > documentation) and condensing them into the HTML/CSS template set
> > > > forth,
> > > > > > but both have provisions for specifying CSS, so it is certainly
> > > doable.
> > > > > > The above method allows for the avoidance of committing generated
> > > files
> > > > > to
> > > > > > the core codebase (obviously, all generated files compose the SVN
> > > > site),
> > > > > > and allows for a direct correlation between documentation and a
> > given
> > > > > > commit while simultaneously not binding the site explicitly to
> SVN
> > or
> > > > ASF
> > > > > > CMS.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > One item that seems problematic with the above plan is that it
> > would
> > > > > remove
> > > > > > the ease of submitting a patch via the provided bookmarklet that
> > > works
> > > > > with
> > > > > > the CMS.  This becomes a manual process to find the source
> content
> > > and
> > > > > > apply the patch to it in Git.  Although to some extent, this is
> > > already
> > > > > the
> > > > > > case given the use of Asciidoc and the Processor documentation.
> > Not
> > > > sure
> > > > > > if it is a deal breaker or not, but it is a point of
> consideration.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [1]
> > > https://github.com/jclouds/jclouds-site/blob/master/deploy-site.sh
> > > > > > [2] http://www.apache.org/dev/cms.html#external
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Jennifer Barnabee <
> > > > > > [hidden email]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > You guys are totally right.  Ok, as a starting point, what
> about
> > > this
> > > > > or
> > > > > > > something like this?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Apache NiFi is a highly configurable and intuitive dataflow
> > > > management
> > > > > > > system.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -Jenn
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Donald Miner <
> > > > [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Same here, never heard of fbp.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I like the Accumulo blurb on the front page a lot:
> > > > > > > > The Apache Accumulo™ sorted, distributed key/value store is a
> > > > robust,
> > > > > > > > scalable, high performance data storage and retrieval system.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > (I think i based my suggestion on this). It just gets to the
> > > point
> > > > > and
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > a technologist that has a clue or two I know what it is
> trying
> > to
> > > > do.
> > > > > > > > Another example Kafka: "A high-throughput distributed
> messaging
> > > > > > system. "
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Jan 29, 2015, at 5:07 PM, Joey Echeverria <
> > [hidden email]
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Just to clarify, I wasn't advocating that it should be
> > removed
> > > > (I'm
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > really advocating for anything). My point was meant to
> > > illustrate
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > it's
> > > > > > > > > not a draw, but it is potentially an educational reference.
> > So,
> > > > it
> > > > > > > > depends
> > > > > > > > > on how you want to use the real-estate in the tag line.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Thu Jan 29 2015 at 11:19:38 AM Joe Witt <
> > [hidden email]
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> We can get rid of the FBP reference.  I'll just be the
> > excited
> > > > > tech
> > > > > > > guy
> > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > >> the corner of the conference that keeps talking about it.
> > > > > > > > >>>> On Jan 29, 2015 1:00 PM, "Joey Echeverria" <
> > > [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>> I understand that flow-based programming is very
> important
> > as
> > > > the
> > > > > > > model
> > > > > > > > >> of
> > > > > > > > >>> NiFi, but I don't think it's a widely understood term.
> > FWIW,
> > > I
> > > > > > hadn't
> > > > > > > > >> heard
> > > > > > > > >>> of it until I started working with NiFi.
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>> On Thu Jan 29 2015 at 9:56:10 AM Jennifer Barnabee <
> > > > > > > > >>> [hidden email]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> Hi Donald,
> > > > > > > > >>>> I like your tagline sentence for the most part. Thanks
> so
> > > much
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > > >>> sending
> > > > > > > > >>>> it. Maybe it can get us to where we want to be...
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> I have these thoughts to add...
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> a) I think we want to honor that flow-based programming
> is
> > > the
> > > > > > basis
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > >>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>> software. So, that's important, and I think that's why
> it
> > > went
> > > > > > into
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >>>> tagline. But I'm not sure whether it has to be
> > specifically
> > > > > there.
> > > > > > > > >>> Someone
> > > > > > > > >>>> else can weigh in on that.
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> b) My only problem with your tagline is the last part:
> > > > > "transform
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > >>> move
> > > > > > > > >>>> files". One thing is - we don't want to limit NiFi to
> > being
> > > > only
> > > > > > > > >>>> file-based. Secondly, moving and transforming data is
> not
> > > all
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > > NiFi
> > > > > > > > >>>> does. In truth, NiFi is not just a dataflow system.
> It's a
> > > > > > dataflow
> > > > > > > > >>>> management system. And that encompasses everything about
> > the
> > > > > > > dataflow,
> > > > > > > > >>> from
> > > > > > > > >>>> how the data moves and/or gets transformed and routed,
> to
> > > how
> > > > > you
> > > > > > > > >> monitor
> > > > > > > > >>>> that, how you track down the data, how you configure and
> > > > design
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >>>> dataflow to be better, etc.  The moving and transforming
> > > parts
> > > > > are
> > > > > > > > just
> > > > > > > > >>>> some of the extension points. It's the framework that
> > allows
> > > > you
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > >>> manage
> > > > > > > > >>>> *whatever* you do with the data.
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> So, now that I've rambled on, it's clear that I can't
> come
> > > up
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > > >>>> something concise. I think I may be too close to
> > everything
> > > > :-)
> > > > > > > > >>>> But I think you are on the right track! I would be happy
> > to
> > > > know
> > > > > > > what
> > > > > > > > >>>> others think. It would be great if people could land on
> > the
> > > > page
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > >>>> quickly understand what NiFi is. So far, your sentence
> > would
> > > > get
> > > > > > > > people
> > > > > > > > >>>> closer to that than anything I have proposed.
> > > > > > > > >>>> Cheers,
> > > > > > > > >>>> Jenn
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:36 AM, Donald Miner <
> > > > > > > [hidden email]
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>> On the subject of taglines, a minor nitpick (sorry).
> I'm
> > > > just a
> > > > > > fan
> > > > > > > > >> of
> > > > > > > > >>>>> concise and meaningful taglines.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>> "is a dataflow system based on the concepts of
> flow-based
> > > > > > > > >> programming.
> > > > > > > > >>> It
> > > > > > > > >>>>> is currently a part of the Apache Incubator." is rather
> > > > wordy.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>> "flow" and "based" are in this sentence twice, which
> > makes
> > > it
> > > > > > kind
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > >>>>> awkward. Does flow-based programming really matter
> enough
> > > to
> > > > be
> > > > > > > part
> > > > > > > > >> of
> > > > > > > > >>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>> tagline? Maybe it should just be a bullet point below.
> > Same
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > > >>>> incubator
> > > > > > > > >>>>> status... I think that's readily available information
> > that
> > > > > > doesn't
> > > > > > > > >>>>> necessarily need to be in the tagline (and would
> > eventually
> > > > > > > change).
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>> Here's my stab:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>> "The Apache NiFi dataflow system is an easy to use,
> > highly
> > > > > > > > >>> configurable,
> > > > > > > > >>>>> extendable, and reliable way to transform and move
> > files."
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>> I think the list of properties in the middle of my
> > sentence
> > > > > could
> > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > >>>>> replaced by someone who has a better idea of what the
> > true
> > > > > > sticking
> > > > > > > > >>>> points
> > > > > > > > >>>>> for NiFi will be.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>> -d
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Joe Witt <
> > > > [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> Jenn
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> Apologies for the delayed feedback.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> I agree it could be more concise but feel like the
> > > proposed
> > > > is
> > > > > > too
> > > > > > > > >>>>> concise
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> to as have lost some important meaning.  Many projects
> > > claim
> > > > > > > > >> they're
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> lightweight, scalable, and easy to use and almost
> always
> > > > that
> > > > > > just
> > > > > > > > >>>> isn't
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> true.  We're arguably not 'lightweight' anymore.  We
> > could
> > > > > have
> > > > > > > > >> said
> > > > > > > > >>>> that
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> when it was a 6 MB download perhaps but now that we're
> > > > > weighing
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > >> at
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> 100MB's we probably shouldn't claim that on its own.
> > > We're
> > > > > > > > >> certainly
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> 'lightweight' in many important aspects and arguably
> in
> > > all
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >> ways
> > > > > > > > >>>> that
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> truly matter but we should be at least somewhat
> > > specific.  I
> > > > > > agree
> > > > > > > > >>>> we're
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> scalable but again without context that feels
> > > misleading.  I
> > > > > > agree
> > > > > > > > >> we
> > > > > > > > >>>>> have
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> an extremely nice UI that is indeed highly
> configurable
> > > and
> > > > > > > > >> intuitive
> > > > > > > > >>>> but
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> the same thoughts apply which is we should provide
> some
> > > > > context
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > >> to
> > > > > > > > >>>>> what
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> we mean.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> This is the nice part of this as an open source thing.
> > We
> > > > can
> > > > > > > just
> > > > > > > > >>> be
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> straight up and precise about the features and what
> > > they're
> > > > > good
> > > > > > > > >> for
> > > > > > > > >>>> and
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> what they do.  We can even be self deprecating and
> point
> > > out
> > > > > > what
> > > > > > > > >>> we're
> > > > > > > > >>>>> not
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> good at.  If it were a commercial construct or we were
> > > > > marketing
> > > > > > > > >> then
> > > > > > > > >>>> we
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> might need to be less specific so as not to exclude
> some
> > > > > > potential
> > > > > > > > >>>>> business
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> area.  But in this case, we're a tiny little open
> source
> > > > > project
> > > > > > > > >> that
> > > > > > > > >>>>> very
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> few people know about.  We're only going to grow by
> > being
> > > > > > > > >>>> straightforward
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> about what it is and attracting those who buy in to
> that
> > > > > vision
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> direction.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> Just thoughts here - i am not asking you to avoid
> > changing
> > > > it
> > > > > > > > >> should
> > > > > > > > >>>> you
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> feel really strongly that you want to change it.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> Thanks
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> Joe
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 6:04 AM, Jennifer Barnabee <
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> [hidden email]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Hi Matt et al -
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> The new website design is looking great...  I feel
> like
> > > the
> > > > > > text
> > > > > > > > >>>> needs
> > > > > > > > >>>>> to
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> be simpler and more to the point.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> For the tagline under the first Apache nifi heading,
> I
> > > > > suggest
> > > > > > > > >>> making
> > > > > > > > >>>>> it
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> a
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> bullet rather than including the verb "is". I'd also
> > like
> > > > to
> > > > > > make
> > > > > > > > >>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> features into simpler bullets. See my suggested text
> > > > below. I
> > > > > > > > >> hope
> > > > > > > > >>> it
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> still
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> captures the essence of what we want to convey, but
> > > others
> > > > > may
> > > > > > > > >> have
> > > > > > > > >>>>> good
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> suggestions as well...  For example, in the last
> > bullet,
> > > I
> > > > > > don't
> > > > > > > > >>> know
> > > > > > > > >>>>> if
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> "client" would be better than "user" or if
> > > "authentication"
> > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > >>> be
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> better
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> than "authorization". You guys probably have a better
> > > > handle
> > > > > on
> > > > > > > > >>> that
> > > > > > > > >>>>> type
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> of stuff.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> *Apache nifi *
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> - A dataflow system based on the concepts of
> flow-based
> > > > > > > > >>> programming.
> > > > > > > > >>>> It
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> is
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> currently a part of the Apache Incubator.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Apache NiFi supports powerful and scalable directed
> > > graphs
> > > > of
> > > > > > > > >> data
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> routing,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> transformation, and system mediation logic.
> High-level
> > > > > features
> > > > > > > > >>>>> include:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Lightweight
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Scalable
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Highly Configurable
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Intuitive User Interface
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Component-based Extension Model
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Fine Grained Data Provenance
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Enterprise & Inter-system Security
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Content Encryption/Decryption
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Pluggable SSL & PKI User Authorization
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> *I kinda don't like that you have to scroll down to
> see
> > > all
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >>>>> features.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> But I realize it wouldn't bother me if I was looking
> at
> > > it
> > > > on
> > > > > > my
> > > > > > > > >>>> phone,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> so
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> I don't know why I'm complaining about that... *
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Cheers,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Jenn
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 11:43 PM, Matt Gilman <
> > > > > > > > >>>> [hidden email]
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> I went ahead and started implementing the website
> > based
> > > on
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >>> most
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> recent
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> feedback and mock ups. I've done just the main page
> > and
> > > > put
> > > > > it
> > > > > > > > >>>> here:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> http://nifi.incubator.apache.org/v2/
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Please let me know if there's a more appropriate
> place
> > > to
> > > > > host
> > > > > > > > >>>> that.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Anyways, I am going to continue working to port over
> > the
> > > > > > > > >>> remaining
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> pages
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> and figure out a good way to integrate the
> > documentation
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > > >> is
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> generated
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> from building NiFi. Part of that is likely going to
> > > depend
> > > > > on
> > > > > > > > >>> what
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> repository the site is kept in. What I've done uses
> a
> > > > number
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > >>>> tools
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> (grunt, assemble, bower, etc) to actually build the
> > > site.
> > > > I
> > > > > > > > >>> believe
> > > > > > > > >>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Apache CMS tool will be CMing the resulting site.
> > Where
> > > do
> > > > > > > > >> others
> > > > > > > > >>>> CM
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> actual development artifacts of their sites? I did
> > find
> > > > > > another
> > > > > > > > >>>>> Apache
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> project with a similar set up:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> https://github.com/jclouds/jclouds-site
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> and they appear to have a separate repository for
> > there
> > > > > site.
> > > > > > > > >>>> Should
> > > > > > > > >>>>> I
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> be
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> requesting another repository for this? Or should I
> > just
> > > > add
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > >>> to
> > > > > > > > >>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> existing incubator-nifi and have a top level folder
> > for
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > >> site?
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Also, I also noticed that jclouds has a deployment
> > > script
> > > > > > which
> > > > > > > > >>>>> appears
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> automate that process as well. Is this how most
> > projects
> > > > > > handle
> > > > > > > > >>>> site
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> updates?
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Thanks.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Matt
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 8:24 PM, Aldrin Piri <
> > > > > > > > >>> [hidden email]
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Seems like a fair list of points to resolve.  Let
> me
> > > know
> > > > > how
> > > > > > > > >>> you
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> want
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> to tackle it and if you'd like me to investigate
> any
> > of
> > > > > them.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> AsciiDoc provides an HTML5 backend [1] that should
> > > > provide
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > > >>> hook
> > > > > > > > >>>>> to
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> help it be consistent in some form with the rest of
> > the
> > > > > site.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> [1]
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > http://www.methods.co.nz/asciidoc/asciidoc.css-embedded.html#X35
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 8:10 AM, Matt Gilman <
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Agreed. Lets see give it a try and see how it
> > looks. I
> > > > > > > > >>> thought
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> about
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> possibly just putting the drop in the toolbar but
> > held
> > > > off
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> initially
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> but
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> your comment about being consistently visible
> across
> > > all
> > > > > > > > >>> pages
> > > > > > > > >>>> is
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> on
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> point.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> This brings up another issue that the current
> > > > > documentation
> > > > > > > > >>>> loads
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> in
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> a
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> page
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> without the toolbar so that'll have to be
> addressed.
> > > > > > > > >> Haven't
> > > > > > > > >>>>> messed
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> with
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> bootstrap so I'll have to see what's possible.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Outstanding issues...
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> - Better integrate documentation pages into
> website
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> - Get updated images (and properly scale them)
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> - Update website markup for production use (what I
> > did
> > > > was
> > > > > > > > >>>> quick
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> and
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> just
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> for the mockup so we continue this discussion)
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Anything else I'm forgetting?
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 12:26 AM, Aldrin Piri <
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Matt,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Looks good here.  I think clean and simple is the
> > > right
> > > > > > > > >>>>> direction
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> and
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> this
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> is just another step in that evolution. I think
> it
> > > is a
> > > > > > > > >>> matter
> > > > > > > > >>>>> of
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> nit-picking at this point so the following
> comments
> > > > come
> > > > > > > > >>> with
> > > > > > > > >>>>> that
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> scope of
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> importance.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I would like to see the logo make it somewhere on
> > the
> > > > > page
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> consistently
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> for
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the sake of keeping it across all pages in the
> > > site.  I
> > > > > > > > >>>> realize
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> logo in
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the navbar is rather redundant for the home page,
> > but
> > > > on
> > > > > > > > >> all
> > > > > > > > >>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> other
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> pages such as documentation and general project
> > > > > > > > >> information,
> > > > > > > > >>>>> there
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> will
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> be
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> no presence in the current state.  One way to
> > > > compromise
> > > > > > > > >>> might
> > > > > > > > >>>>> be
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> to
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> make
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> use of the commonplace technique where the logo
> on
> > > the
> > > > > > > > >> main
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> content
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> area
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> gets placed into the navbar when scrolling would
> > > > obscure
> > > > > > > > >> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>> logo;
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> all
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> other pages would then just have it in the
> header.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Maybe a slightly heavier weight on the navbar for
> > the
> > > > > menu
> > > > > > > > >>>>> items.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 22:51 Matt Gilman <
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Aldrin,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> I like what you did here and it sounds like most
> > > > people
> > > > > > > > >> do
> > > > > > > > >>>>> too.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> I
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wanted
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> provide some feedback and minor suggestions but
> > > > thought
> > > > > > > > >> it
> > > > > > > > >>>>> would
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> just
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> be
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> easier to mock it up myself rather than trying
> to
> > > ask
> > > > > > > > >> you
> > > > > > > > >>> to
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> move
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> this
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> here
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> and that there. Anyways, take a peek and lets
> > > continue
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> iterating.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> I
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> think
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> we're on the right track.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://raw.githubusercontent.
> > > > > > > > >>>> com/mcgilman/apache-nifi-site/
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> screenshots/index.html.lite.v1.2.png
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Matt
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 10:05 PM, Joe Witt <
> > > > > > > > >>>>> [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dan,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> No real thought behind it.  But I personally
> > agree
> > > > > > > > >> with
> > > > > > > > >>>> your
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> statement:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the logos look good as "nifi" and the text
> looks
> > > good
> > > > > > > > >> as
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> "NiFi"
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 10:03 PM, Daniel Bress
> <
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aldrin,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   I think this looks good.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> All,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Maybe this is a little off topic, but I
> > noticed
> > > > > > > > >>> that
> > > > > > > > >>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> logos
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> consistently use "nifi" whereas in text its
> > > > > > > > >>> consistently
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> written
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> as
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "NiFi".  Any reason for the difference?
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   I kind of thing the logos look good as
> "nifi"
> > > and
> > > > > > > > >>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> text
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> looks
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> good
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> as "NiFi" so I might be questioning something
> > > that I
> > > > > > > > >>> am
> > > > > > > > >>>> OK
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> with.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> But I
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> noticed they are different and was wondering
> if
> > > this
> > > > > > > > >>>> was a
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> conscious
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> decision or not.  Thoughts?
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dan Bress
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Software Engineer
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ONYX Consulting Services
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________________
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Joe Witt <[hidden email]>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 6:40 PM
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [hidden email]
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Website Theme
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Solid design and agree with all your comments
> > > > > > > > >> aldrin.
> > > > > > > > >>>>> Very
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> nice
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2015 6:27 PM, "Aldrin Piri" <
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the comments.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I actuality tried it without the logo on the
> > main
> > > > > > > > >>> page
> > > > > > > > >>>>> and
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> it
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> felt
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> a
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bit empty.  I don't know that we necessarily
> > need
> > > > > > > > >>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>> logo
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> there,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> but
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something is needed.  Additionally, I viewed
> it
> > > as
> > > > > > > > >>>> being
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> just
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> a
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> "front
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page" inclusion, as other pages would just
> have
> > > > > > > > >> the
> > > > > > > > >>>> top
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> navbar.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You caught me.  I was lazy and I recycled the
> > > > > > > > >>>> screenshot
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> from
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first iteration.  It would definitely need
> > > > > > > > >> updating,
> > > > > > > > >>>> but
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> is
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> largely
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just a placeholder for the concept.  I would
> > > > > > > > >>>> definitely
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> like
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> something
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a bit more engaging.  (faux edit) I
> rearranged
> > > > > > > > >>> things
> > > > > > > > >>>> a
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> bit,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> removing
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the second instance of the logo and placing
> > more
> > > > > > > > >>>>> emphasis
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> on
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> one
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the corner of the application.  Not sure
> if
> > I
> > > > > > > > >>> like
> > > > > > > > >>>> it
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> better,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> but
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've provided the results [1] with all three
> of
> > > > > > > > >> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> submissions
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> shown
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in chronological order [2].
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The news section is a toss-up for me at this
> > > > > > > > >>> juncture.
> > > > > > > > >>>>> I
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> could
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> see
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the need one for eventually, but I'm not sure
> > if
> > > > > > > > >> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> project
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> is
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> quite
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there yet.  It seemed a common thread among
> > > > > > > > >>> incubating
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> sites
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> that
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> such
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a section was omitted whereas those top-level
> > > > > > > > >>> projects
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> typically
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> included one.  Given that the project is on
> the
> > > > > > > > >>> verge
> > > > > > > > >>>> on
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> first
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> of
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the regular releases, perhaps this is
> > > increasingly
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> pertinent
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> in
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> near future.  At minimum, one of the screen
> > grabs
> > > > > > > > >>> from
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> your
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> blog
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> posts
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be a good candidate.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > https://raw.githubusercontent.com/apiri/apache-nifi-site/scr
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> eenshots/index.html.lite.v1.1.png
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >
> > > https://github.com/apiri/apache-nifi-site/blob/screenshots/README.md
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Mark Payne
> <
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> [hidden email]
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aldrin,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm liking it! Definitely looks nice.
> Though I
> > > > > > > > >>> would
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> provide a
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> bit
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> of
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feedback:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure that I would include the NiFi
> > logo
> > > > > > > > >> on
> > > > > > > > >>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> right-hand
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> side,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since it's already in the top-left.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From a NiFi 'brand' perspective, I would
> > update
> > > > > > > > >>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> screenshot a
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> bit.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This screenshot is using the old logo in the
> > > > > > > > >>> top-left
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> corner,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> and
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> graph
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shows all of the data disappearing before the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> RouteOnAttribute
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Processor.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd recommend we construct a dataflow that's
> > more
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> appealing
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> target
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> audience, perhaps integrating with other
> Apache
> > > > > > > > >>>> projects
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> (HDFS,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Kafka
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> are
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible, for instance) or using (S)FTP
> > > processor.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does it make sense to have maybe like a
> > 'Latest
> > > > > > > > >>>> News'
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> section
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> or
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something where we could post things like
> > > "Version
> > > > > > > > >>>> 0.0.1
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> just
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> released!"
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc.?
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm really liking the concept - nice job!
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks-Mark
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 07:00:52 -0800
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Website Theme
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: [hidden email]
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [hidden email]
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I like it.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 8:50 PM, Aldrin
> Piri
> > <
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I found some time today to provide another
> > > > > > > > >> look
> > > > > > > > >>>> for
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> site.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> There
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were very minor changes to the core HTML
> as
> > > > > > > > >> is
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> currently
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> served
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> at
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nidi homepage and it is largely just a
> > > > > > > > >>>> stylesheet.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> This
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> one
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> is
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> highly
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minimal and clean, still driven by
> Bootstrap
> > > > > > > > >>> and
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> directly
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> makes
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> use
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the colors from the UI itself.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A screenshot can be seen at
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > https://raw.githubusercontent.com/apiri/apache-nifi-site/scr
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> eenshots/index.html.lite.png
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the associated code under the "lite"
> > > > > > > > >>> branch
> > > > > > > > >>>> at
> > > > > > > > >>>>> https://github.com/apiri/apache-nifi-site/tree/lite
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any thoughts are appreciated.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 9:54 PM, Aldrin
> Piri
> > <
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry if this somehow gets sent twice.
>  My
> > > > > > > > >>>> first
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> submission
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> seemed
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bounce as it exceeded the spam threshold
> > > > > > > > >>> when I
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> sent
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> it a
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> couple
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hours ago and it has yet to appear, so
> I'm
> > > > > > > > >>>>> sending
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> again.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> First and foremost, good feedback.  I
> think
> > > > > > > > >>>> UI/UX
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> stuff
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> is
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> tricky
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am happy to find my livelihood in the
> > > > > > > > >>>> plumbing
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> and
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> behind
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scenes
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's my attempt to try and tackle all
> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> comments
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> in
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> one
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> fell
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> swoop:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree that Bootstrap is everywhere,
> but I
> > > > > > > > >>>> don't
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> necessarily
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is a bad thing.  One could argue
> that
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> interfaces
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> of
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> all
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> forms
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> converging and users have the instant
> > > > > > > > >>>> familiarity
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> of
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> a
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> known
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quantity.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know that I am totally unaware of what
> it
> > > > > > > > >>>> takes
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> to
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> make a
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> site
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> functional and maintain its feel across
> > > > > > > > >>>>> devices.  I
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> think
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> that
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> last
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> part is important.  Personally, as a user
> > > > > > > > >> on
> > > > > > > > >>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> other
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> side
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> of
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screen, I don't really understand why
> sites
> > > > > > > > >>> do
> > > > > > > > >>>>> not
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> work
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> or
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> jive
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my mobile device du jour these days; it
> > > > > > > > >>> should
> > > > > > > > >>>>> just
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> work.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> With
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> little I've learned about UX and "Not
> > > > > > > > >> Making
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> [Anyone]
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Think,"[1] I
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want an effortless experience; no pinch
> > > > > > > > >>>> zooming,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> tap
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> panning,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> etc.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there is a way to take bits and pieces of
> > > > > > > > >>>>> bootstrap
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> this
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> end
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support that aspect without the cookie
> > > > > > > > >> cutter
> > > > > > > > >>>>> air,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> I
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> would
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> be
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> quite
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thankful for some guidance on that front
> > > > > > > > >> and
> > > > > > > > >>> do
> > > > > > > > >>>>> my
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> best
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> provide
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Out of the box though, the sample looked
> > > > > > > > >>> pretty
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> decent
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> across
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> all
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> devices to which I had access, and used
> > > > > > > > >>>>> constructs
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> everyone
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> who
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> views
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> content through a tiny screen is
> > > > > > > > >> accustomed.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do agree on the front of the
> possibility
> > > > > > > > >> of
> > > > > > > > >>>>> brand
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> dilution,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think it is an excellent point for
> > > > > > > > >>>> consideration.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> As
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> original mailing, consideration was given
> > > > > > > > >> to
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> integrating
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> application's aesthetics into the core
> > > > > > > > >> site.
> > > > > > > > >>>> Not
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> sure
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> if
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> this
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pan out in an appreciable way as I can
> see
> > > > > > > > >> it
> > > > > > > > >>>> in
> > > > > > > > >>>>> my
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> mind,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> but
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> I
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> do
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feel it is an avenue worth exploring.  It
> > > > > > > > >> may
> > > > > > > > >>>>> also
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> completely
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> miss
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mark, but with my new found web dev
> > > > > > > > >> prowess,
> > > > > > > > >>> it
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> should
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> be a
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> much
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quicker iteration than the first draft.
> > > > > > > > >>> You'll
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> see a
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> slight
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> homage
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this via the graph wallpaper that is
> > > > > > > > >> featured
> > > > > > > > >>>> in
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> application
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> itself.  This was muted a bit by a CSS
> > > > > > > > >>> overlay
> > > > > > > > >>>>> to a
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> level
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> that
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seemed
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> okay, but I definitely hedged as to
> whether
> > > > > > > > >>> or
> > > > > > > > >>>>> not
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> to
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> include
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ultimately, I wanted to get something out
> > > > > > > > >> to
> > > > > > > > >>>>> start
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> ball
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rolling,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> establishing a base for successive
> > > > > > > > >>>> iterations.  I
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> know
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> that
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> with
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the hard work everyone is putting in, the
> > > > > > > > >>>> project
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> is
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> closely
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reaching
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its first milestone for release, and
> > > > > > > > >> thought
> > > > > > > > >>> it
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> important to
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> chip
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where possible to give a face to the
> > > > > > > > >> project.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Additionally, I think this particular
> > > > > > > > >> project
> > > > > > > > >>>>> needs
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> pictures
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> demonstrate what it's capabilities.  One
> of
> > > > > > > > >>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> facets
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> that
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> makes
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me a
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believer about NiFi as a whole is that
> the
> > > > > > > > >>> end
> > > > > > > > >>>>> user
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> is
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> not
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> just
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> developers.  Citing the previous example
> of
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> Accumulo,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> its
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> intended
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> audience is very technical in nature and,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> accordingly,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> a
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> lot
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> can
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expressed via the simple phrase of
> > > > > > > > >> "key-value
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> store."
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> I
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> would
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contend
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that NiFi's reach is far broader and
> can't
> > > > > > > > >> be
> > > > > > > > >>>>> done
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> justice
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> with
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simple phrase.  For the casual potential
> > > > > > > > >> user
> > > > > > > > >>>> who
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> has
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> strung
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> together
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> n-many processes of taking a file,
> manually
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> transforming
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> it,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> and
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moving it elsewhere, they need to see at
> > > > > > > > >>> quick
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> glance
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> that
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> there
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something that can automate this tedium
> and
> > > > > > > > >>>> make
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> them
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> more
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effective.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Succinctly, the value proposition needs
> to
> > > > > > > > >> be
> > > > > > > > >>>>> there
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> not
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> only
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> for
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> technical folks who will use this as a
> > > > > > > > >>>> framework,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> but
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> additionally
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> end users.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The background for the header isn't
> > > > > > > > >> awesome,
> > > > > > > > >>>> but
> > > > > > > > >>>>> I
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> knew I
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wasn't
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> violating any licenses if I generated it
> > > > > > > > >>>>> myself.  I
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> viewed
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> it
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> more
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a placeholder than anything else.
> > > > > > > > >> Definitely
> > > > > > > > >>>>> not a
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> front
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> end
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> web
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> developer, even more definitively not a
> > > > > > > > >>> graphic
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> artist.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> The
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> colors
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> came from starting with the logo dark
> blue
> > > > > > > > >>> and
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> running
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> a
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> whole
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bunch
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of filters and plugins via GIMP to get
> > > > > > > > >>>> something.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Additionally,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a CSS gradient applied over top of it
> as
> > > > > > > > >>>> well
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> when
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> it
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> seemed
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bit
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too loud.  It could definitely deal with
> > > > > > > > >>> being
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> muted
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> a
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> bit
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> more.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] http://www.sensible.com/dmmt.html
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 12:57 PM, Tony
> Kurc
> > > > > > > > >> <
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey! It looks awesome! The existing site
> > > > > > > > >> was
> > > > > > > > >>>> put
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> together a
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> placeholder
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we went with a very generic layout that
> > > > > > > > >>> worked
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> well
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> with
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CMS and
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contained all the information expected
> of
> > > > > > > > >> an
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> apache
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> process.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a big improvement! For people
> new
> > > > > > > > >> to
> > > > > > > > >>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> project,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> it
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> gives
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nice
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> upfront screenshot, with big fat links
> for
> > > > > > > > >>>>> things
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> I
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> care
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> about
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seeing!
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some things I didn't like about the
> > > > > > > > >> existing
> > > > > > > > >>>>> site
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> are
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> glyphicon
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to "external" sites on the menu. I used
> > > > > > > > >>>> "link",
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> but
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> I
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> think
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> it
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meant to
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be used for "permalink". Also, we kind
> of
> > > > > > > > >>>> took a
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> best
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> guess
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> about
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should go in each dropdown in the menu.
> > > > > > > > >> I'm
> > > > > > > > >>>>> pretty
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> sure
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> it
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> could
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> organized. I'd also like to see the
> > > > > > > > >> awesome
> > > > > > > > >>>>> guides
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> that
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> people
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consistent theme with the website and
> > > > > > > > >> maybe
> > > > > > > > >>>> have
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> pdfs
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> so
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> old-school
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folks
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can print them out (which may be a dumb
> > > > > > > > >> idea
> > > > > > > > >>>> ;)
> > > > > > > > >>>>> )
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> A
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> pet
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> peeve
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mine of
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> projects is having a hard time finding
> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> documentation I
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> need,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> javadocs or specifications - and keeping
> > > > > > > > >>>> around
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> older
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> versions
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documentation. I think we're still
> working
> > > > > > > > >>> on
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> these
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> -
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> since
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> you
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> retained
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the menu up top it should be
> > > > > > > > >> straightforward
> > > > > > > > >>>> to
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> have a
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> robust
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documentation
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dropdown.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The blue you used is more of a reddish
> or
> > > > > > > > >>>>> purplish
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> blue
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> -
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> blue
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> used
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the app is more of a greenish blue. I'm
> > > > > > > > >> kind
> > > > > > > > >>>> of
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> curious
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> what
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> a
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> greener
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blue
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would look like ... did you mock one up
> > > > > > > > >> and
> > > > > > > > >>> it
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> looked
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> bad?
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Or
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe a
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fundamental question, should the website
> > > > > > > > >>> evoke
> > > > > > > > >>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> theme of
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> app? I
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't know how I feel.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tony
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Joe
> Witt
> > > > > > > > >> <
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd say the two sides of the spectrum
> as
> > > > > > > > >>>>> examples
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> are:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://kafka.apache.org/  [super
> > > > > > > > >>> minimalist]
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://aurora.incubator.apache.org/ [
> > > > > > > > >>> quite
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> fancy
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> looking ]
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Both in my opinion are beautifully done
> > > > > > > > >> and
> > > > > > > > >>>>> make
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> it
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> easy
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> get
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> content
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needed.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think these (and others) provide
> great
> > > > > > > > >>>>> examples
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> that
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> both
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sides
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spectrum have merit.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is most important to me is that we
> > > > > > > > >> as
> > > > > > > > >>> a
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> community
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> rally
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> behind
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the expertise and willingness to
> > > > > > > > >>>>> contribute
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> in
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> this
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> space.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Joe
> > > > > > > > >> Witt <
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Both are bootstrap based.  Each is an
> > > > > > > > >>>>> iterative
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> improvement.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And we
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep iterating as folks have time,
> > > > > > > > >>>>> willingness,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> and
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> expertise
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree that this new look does not
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> distinguish a
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> brand.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> But
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we're
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mature enough to worry about that yet.
> > > > > > > > >>> We
> > > > > > > > >>>>> just
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> need
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> enough
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info laid out enough to help grow a
> > > > > > > > >>>> community
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> and
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> get
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> folks
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need.  We need it laid out in a way
> > > > > > > > >> that
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> multiple
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> folks
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> can
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contribute.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once we have a release, recruit some
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> committers,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> demonstrate
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> progress on
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Apache Way and grow then perhaps
> > > > > > > > >>>> branding
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> becomes a
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> bigger
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deal.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ..this motivates me to spawn another
> > > > > > > > >>> thread
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> about
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> type
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to be...
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Adam
> > > > > > > > >>> Taft
> > > > > > > > >>>> <
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This isn't a downvote -- I think it
> > > > > > > > >>> indeed
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> looks
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> good.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> But
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> terms of
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> constructive criticism...
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the mockup looks like a very
> > > > > > > > >>>> generic
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> "bootstrap"
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> site,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> similar
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> million other bootstrap based sites.
> > > > > > > > >>> I'd
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> personally
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> almost
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prefer
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> existing utilitarian website over a
> > > > > > > > >>>>> bootstrap
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> theme,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> simply
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't try to be anything more than
> > > > > > > > >>> what
> > > > > > > > >>>> it
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> is.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This approach might be an acceptable
> > > > > > > > >>>>> tradeoff
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> for
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> project;
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> having
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bootstrap look & feel is obviously a
> > > > > > > > >>>>> resource
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> savings
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> and
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right price point.  But the site
> > > > > > > > >> mockup
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> definitely
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distinguish
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache NiFi "brand" in anyway. In
> fact
> > > > > > > > >>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> opposite,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> brand
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gets
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> watered
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> down with this look.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As a funny side note, humorously for
> > > > > > > > >> me,
> > > > > > > > >>>>> this
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> was
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> first
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> head when I saw the site:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2010-04-01/
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Adam
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 7:39 PM,
> Aldrin
> > > > > > > > >>>> Piri
> > > > > > > > >>>>> <
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In partial fulfillment of the goals
> > > > > > > > >> of
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> NIFI-162, I
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> set
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> some
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aside
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> put together something a bit more
> > > > > > > > >>>> visually
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> appealing
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> as a
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> face
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My work can be found at:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apiri/apache-nifi-site
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently, work focused around the
> > > > > > > > >>>>> homepage,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> but
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> similar
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> styles
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> applied to more content driven pages
> > > > > > > > >>>> minus
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> large
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> headlining
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sections.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The relevant technology colophon is
> > > > > > > > >>>>> provided
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> in
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> README
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Github
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but is
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> primarily driven by Bootstrap,
> > > > > > > > >>> existing
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> image
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> resources
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> included
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project and current site, and other
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> "artwork"
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> which I
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> created
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> myself.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am neither a UX expert nor am I a
> > > > > > > > >>>>> renowned
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> front
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> end
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> designer,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> input is welcome.  As a "version
> > > > > > > > >> 1.1"
> > > > > > > > >>> I
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> would
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> like to
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> adjust
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> converge more with the application.
> > > > > > > > >>>> Ideas
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> for
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> this
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> are
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inclusive
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> points
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> such as bringing the toolbar styling
> > > > > > > > >>> and
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> color
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> scheme
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> from
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> application
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the site.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If this seems like a reasonable path
> > > > > > > > >>>>> forward
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> and
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> there
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> is
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sufficient
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support, I can look at the next
> > > > > > > > >> steps
> > > > > > > > >>> to
> > > > > > > > >>>>> get
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> this
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> integrated
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project, optimization, and
> > > > > > > > >> integration
> > > > > > > > >>>>> with
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> application
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> itself.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To aid in showing the intangibles
> > > > > > > > >> that
> > > > > > > > >>>>> can't
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> be
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> seen
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> from
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> an
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> image, I
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a copy of this design hosted at
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://aldrinpiri.com/apache-nifi/.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links are currently nonfunctional as
> > > > > > > > >>>> they
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> were
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> taken
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> from
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> current
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --Aldrin
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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Re: Website Theme

Joe Witt
Matt

What can I do now to help with maintaining v2 stuff?  Do I edit the
files in Git or the files in SVN?  Don't want to mess with it yet
because I don't understand it.  But if you can give me a few pointers
I can help.

Thanks
Joe

On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Matt Gilman <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I have an idea of how its going to work. However, once we reach out to
> infrastructure regarding the external build (if necessary) we'll know for
> sure [1]. After that discussion I will update nifi-site in our Git repo
> accordingly. It says that the mailing list is infrastructure@, does that
> mean [hidden email]?
>
> Mark had an idea about an updated screenshot but higher priority things
> have popped up. The image can be updated whenever its ready [2].
>
> If you have any other ideas for media we should incorporate (other
> screenshots, FAQs, videos, etc) let me know.
>
> [1] http://www.apache.org/dev/cms.html#external
> [2]
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-nifi/blob/develop/nifi-site/src/images/flow.png
>
> On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 9:17 AM, Joe Witt <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Matt
>>
>> It looks good.  Before we switch we should get the mechanics of update
>> documented.   Do you know that or is it TBD?
>>
>> Also do you need assistance with updating the screenshot?
>>
>> Joe
>> On Feb 8, 2015 4:45 AM, "Matt Gilman" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> > Barring any objections, I'd like to more forward with the updated website
>> > [1]. I've kept up with the changes with the exception of those from the
>> > last few days. Assuming everyone is on board I will reach out to INFRA
>> > about the possibilities for the website build. Based on that
>> conservation I
>> > will update the nifi-site in our Git repo [2] accordingly. I am assuming
>> > that we'll be doing an external build and part of that build will be
>> > deploying the site using SVN.
>> >
>> > [1] https://nifi.incubator.apache.org/v2/
>> > [2] https://github.com/apache/incubator-nifi/tree/develop/nifi-site
>> >
>> > On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 3:28 AM, Jennifer Barnabee <
>> > [hidden email]> wrote:
>> >
>> > > I think that's perfect!
>> > >
>> > > On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 10:08 PM, Joe Witt <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Hello
>> > > >
>> > > > Made some of these suggested edits/simplifications to the current
>> site.
>> > > > New tagline
>> > > >
>> > > > "Apache NiFi is an easy to use, powerful, and reliable system to
>> > process
>> > > > and distribute data."
>> > > >
>> > > > Also removed the jumbotron block as it was causing some really
>> strange
>> > > text
>> > > > sizing issues.
>> > > >
>> > > > Jenn - does this seem more like what you were thinking?
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks
>> > > > Joe
>> > > >
>> > > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 11:03 PM, Matt Gilman <
>> [hidden email]
>> > >
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Aldrin,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > What you've outline is exactly what I am looking to accomplish, I'm
>> > > just
>> > > > > trying to figure out all the pieces. I think I have a handle on
>> > > > everything
>> > > > > except actual publishing of the site. Though I believe the email
>> you
>> > > sent
>> > > > > out earlier indicates that we just need to discuss the matter
>> further
>> > > > with
>> > > > > infrastructure@ mailing list. I tried committing a change (outside
>> > of
>> > > > CMS)
>> > > > > to the staging repository hoping it would kick off the publishing.
>> It
>> > > did
>> > > > > not.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I have prototyped the site artifacts which can be built into the
>> > static
>> > > > > site. I still need to copy over the existing content but I'm trying
>> > to
>> > > > > figure out where this is going to live first. Barring any
>> objections
>> > I
>> > > am
>> > > > > going to create (likely tomorrow) a nifi-site directory at the root
>> > of
>> > > > our
>> > > > > Git repository and go from there. Currently everything is living
>> in a
>> > > > > repository that I forked from the work that Aldrin had started.
>> > > Anyways,
>> > > > I
>> > > > > believe moving it to the project Git repository puts the site in a
>> > more
>> > > > > accessible place where others can contribute as necessary.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > As I mentioned to Dan earlier, I am hoping that we can utilize a
>> > maven
>> > > > > plugin [1] to deploy the relevant documentation (processor, guides,
>> > > > > javadocs) from the application build to a predefined location. The
>> > site
>> > > > > would just reference it from there. This would keep the site and
>> > > > > application builds independent which I think is desirable.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > [1] http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-scm-publish-plugin/
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 10:30 PM, Aldrin Piri <
>> [hidden email]>
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > All the comments have been good but are a bit beyond where the
>> > > current
>> > > > > > platform for them needs to be.  Additionally, with a site more
>> > > > accessible
>> > > > > > and live, changes can be made via contributions. Trying to route
>> > > things
>> > > > > > back on topic a bit as there are external dependencies on some
>> > > > > "finalized"
>> > > > > > state of the site, I did some research into how other projects
>> are
>> > > > > > accomplishing this based off of Matt's notes.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Matt, looking at jclouds, it appears as though they also use the
>> > ASF
>> > > > > > infrastructure to manage their site, but perform a build through
>> a
>> > > > script
>> > > > > > [1], invoking Jekyll to generate the static pages pushed to the
>> > infra
>> > > > > SVN;
>> > > > > > it is a home-brewed git+svn of sorts, but the overall concept
>> makes
>> > > > > sense.
>> > > > > > Given the technologies you listed, this seems like a fair
>> approach
>> > to
>> > > > > > utilize the build tools right for the job while simultaneously
>> not
>> > > > > > requiring a special setup as outlined in the Apache CMS
>> information
>> > > > [2],
>> > > > > > the community can freely pick the technologies they wish with the
>> > > > notion
>> > > > > > that the interface between site code and the actual view is
>> static
>> > > html
>> > > > > > committed to the Infra SVN repo.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > The one area that I think is important to address though is the
>> > > > > > incorporation of the material being generated in the git
>> repository
>> > > and
>> > > > > as
>> > > > > > a product of the build process.  Quickly brainstorming a way to
>> > > attack
>> > > > > this
>> > > > > > would be:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > 1.  provide a top level folder in the NiFi git repository, 'site'
>> > > > (Matt
>> > > > > > posed this as a possibility to which no one had any objections,
>> so
>> > it
>> > > > > seems
>> > > > > > like a reasonable path forward)
>> > > > > > 2.  provide a script that compiles the site, making use of the
>> > > desired
>> > > > > > tools assuming the structure of the site
>> > > > > > 3.  provide orchestration of the core codebase and the site
>> > > > > >   a.  through Maven and possibly the exec or similar plugin,
>> > profile,
>> > > > or
>> > > > > > other avenue, build the codebase needed (mvn -pl -am may do the
>> > job)
>> > > > > >   b.  call the script to generate the static structure of the
>> site
>> > > > which
>> > > > > > has a build target that is a copy of the svn checkout to make use
>> > of
>> > > > the
>> > > > > > diff (maybe there is a way to use git+svn to make this work in a
>> > less
>> > > > > > cumbersome manner)
>> > > > > > 4.  commit to infra subversion
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > The code for the site is easily accessible and allows submission
>> of
>> > > > > patches
>> > > > > > via git while using the tools that make sense for accomplishing
>> > what
>> > > is
>> > > > > > needed; Subversion just becomes the means for content delivery.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > There are certainly a number of details to iron out with the
>> above
>> > > > plan.
>> > > > > > The biggest item is taking the disparate formats (asciidoc,
>> > processor
>> > > > > > documentation) and condensing them into the HTML/CSS template set
>> > > > forth,
>> > > > > > but both have provisions for specifying CSS, so it is certainly
>> > > doable.
>> > > > > > The above method allows for the avoidance of committing generated
>> > > files
>> > > > > to
>> > > > > > the core codebase (obviously, all generated files compose the SVN
>> > > > site),
>> > > > > > and allows for a direct correlation between documentation and a
>> > given
>> > > > > > commit while simultaneously not binding the site explicitly to
>> SVN
>> > or
>> > > > ASF
>> > > > > > CMS.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > One item that seems problematic with the above plan is that it
>> > would
>> > > > > remove
>> > > > > > the ease of submitting a patch via the provided bookmarklet that
>> > > works
>> > > > > with
>> > > > > > the CMS.  This becomes a manual process to find the source
>> content
>> > > and
>> > > > > > apply the patch to it in Git.  Although to some extent, this is
>> > > already
>> > > > > the
>> > > > > > case given the use of Asciidoc and the Processor documentation.
>> > Not
>> > > > sure
>> > > > > > if it is a deal breaker or not, but it is a point of
>> consideration.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > [1]
>> > > https://github.com/jclouds/jclouds-site/blob/master/deploy-site.sh
>> > > > > > [2] http://www.apache.org/dev/cms.html#external
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Jennifer Barnabee <
>> > > > > > [hidden email]> wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > You guys are totally right.  Ok, as a starting point, what
>> about
>> > > this
>> > > > > or
>> > > > > > > something like this?
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Apache NiFi is a highly configurable and intuitive dataflow
>> > > > management
>> > > > > > > system.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > -Jenn
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Donald Miner <
>> > > > [hidden email]>
>> > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Same here, never heard of fbp.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > I like the Accumulo blurb on the front page a lot:
>> > > > > > > > The Apache Accumulo™ sorted, distributed key/value store is a
>> > > > robust,
>> > > > > > > > scalable, high performance data storage and retrieval system.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > (I think i based my suggestion on this). It just gets to the
>> > > point
>> > > > > and
>> > > > > > as
>> > > > > > > > a technologist that has a clue or two I know what it is
>> trying
>> > to
>> > > > do.
>> > > > > > > > Another example Kafka: "A high-throughput distributed
>> messaging
>> > > > > > system. "
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > On Jan 29, 2015, at 5:07 PM, Joey Echeverria <
>> > [hidden email]
>> > > >
>> > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Just to clarify, I wasn't advocating that it should be
>> > removed
>> > > > (I'm
>> > > > > > not
>> > > > > > > > > really advocating for anything). My point was meant to
>> > > illustrate
>> > > > > > that
>> > > > > > > > it's
>> > > > > > > > > not a draw, but it is potentially an educational reference.
>> > So,
>> > > > it
>> > > > > > > > depends
>> > > > > > > > > on how you want to use the real-estate in the tag line.
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > On Thu Jan 29 2015 at 11:19:38 AM Joe Witt <
>> > [hidden email]
>> > > >
>> > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >> We can get rid of the FBP reference.  I'll just be the
>> > excited
>> > > > > tech
>> > > > > > > guy
>> > > > > > > > in
>> > > > > > > > >> the corner of the conference that keeps talking about it.
>> > > > > > > > >>>> On Jan 29, 2015 1:00 PM, "Joey Echeverria" <
>> > > [hidden email]>
>> > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > > >>>
>> > > > > > > > >>> I understand that flow-based programming is very
>> important
>> > as
>> > > > the
>> > > > > > > model
>> > > > > > > > >> of
>> > > > > > > > >>> NiFi, but I don't think it's a widely understood term.
>> > FWIW,
>> > > I
>> > > > > > hadn't
>> > > > > > > > >> heard
>> > > > > > > > >>> of it until I started working with NiFi.
>> > > > > > > > >>>
>> > > > > > > > >>> On Thu Jan 29 2015 at 9:56:10 AM Jennifer Barnabee <
>> > > > > > > > >>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > >>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>> Hi Donald,
>> > > > > > > > >>>> I like your tagline sentence for the most part. Thanks
>> so
>> > > much
>> > > > > for
>> > > > > > > > >>> sending
>> > > > > > > > >>>> it. Maybe it can get us to where we want to be...
>> > > > > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>> I have these thoughts to add...
>> > > > > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>> a) I think we want to honor that flow-based programming
>> is
>> > > the
>> > > > > > basis
>> > > > > > > > of
>> > > > > > > > >>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>> software. So, that's important, and I think that's why
>> it
>> > > went
>> > > > > > into
>> > > > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > >>>> tagline. But I'm not sure whether it has to be
>> > specifically
>> > > > > there.
>> > > > > > > > >>> Someone
>> > > > > > > > >>>> else can weigh in on that.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>> b) My only problem with your tagline is the last part:
>> > > > > "transform
>> > > > > > > and
>> > > > > > > > >>> move
>> > > > > > > > >>>> files". One thing is - we don't want to limit NiFi to
>> > being
>> > > > only
>> > > > > > > > >>>> file-based. Secondly, moving and transforming data is
>> not
>> > > all
>> > > > > that
>> > > > > > > > NiFi
>> > > > > > > > >>>> does. In truth, NiFi is not just a dataflow system.
>> It's a
>> > > > > > dataflow
>> > > > > > > > >>>> management system. And that encompasses everything about
>> > the
>> > > > > > > dataflow,
>> > > > > > > > >>> from
>> > > > > > > > >>>> how the data moves and/or gets transformed and routed,
>> to
>> > > how
>> > > > > you
>> > > > > > > > >> monitor
>> > > > > > > > >>>> that, how you track down the data, how you configure and
>> > > > design
>> > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > >>>> dataflow to be better, etc.  The moving and transforming
>> > > parts
>> > > > > are
>> > > > > > > > just
>> > > > > > > > >>>> some of the extension points. It's the framework that
>> > allows
>> > > > you
>> > > > > > to
>> > > > > > > > >>> manage
>> > > > > > > > >>>> *whatever* you do with the data.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>> So, now that I've rambled on, it's clear that I can't
>> come
>> > > up
>> > > > > with
>> > > > > > > > >>>> something concise. I think I may be too close to
>> > everything
>> > > > :-)
>> > > > > > > > >>>> But I think you are on the right track! I would be happy
>> > to
>> > > > know
>> > > > > > > what
>> > > > > > > > >>>> others think. It would be great if people could land on
>> > the
>> > > > page
>> > > > > > and
>> > > > > > > > >>>> quickly understand what NiFi is. So far, your sentence
>> > would
>> > > > get
>> > > > > > > > people
>> > > > > > > > >>>> closer to that than anything I have proposed.
>> > > > > > > > >>>> Cheers,
>> > > > > > > > >>>> Jenn
>> > > > > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:36 AM, Donald Miner <
>> > > > > > > [hidden email]
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> On the subject of taglines, a minor nitpick (sorry).
>> I'm
>> > > > just a
>> > > > > > fan
>> > > > > > > > >> of
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> concise and meaningful taglines.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> "is a dataflow system based on the concepts of
>> flow-based
>> > > > > > > > >> programming.
>> > > > > > > > >>> It
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> is currently a part of the Apache Incubator." is rather
>> > > > wordy.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> "flow" and "based" are in this sentence twice, which
>> > makes
>> > > it
>> > > > > > kind
>> > > > > > > of
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> awkward. Does flow-based programming really matter
>> enough
>> > > to
>> > > > be
>> > > > > > > part
>> > > > > > > > >> of
>> > > > > > > > >>>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> tagline? Maybe it should just be a bullet point below.
>> > Same
>> > > > > with
>> > > > > > > > >>>> incubator
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> status... I think that's readily available information
>> > that
>> > > > > > doesn't
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> necessarily need to be in the tagline (and would
>> > eventually
>> > > > > > > change).
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> Here's my stab:
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> "The Apache NiFi dataflow system is an easy to use,
>> > highly
>> > > > > > > > >>> configurable,
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> extendable, and reliable way to transform and move
>> > files."
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> I think the list of properties in the middle of my
>> > sentence
>> > > > > could
>> > > > > > > be
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> replaced by someone who has a better idea of what the
>> > true
>> > > > > > sticking
>> > > > > > > > >>>> points
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> for NiFi will be.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> -d
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Joe Witt <
>> > > > [hidden email]>
>> > > > > > > > >> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> Jenn
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> Apologies for the delayed feedback.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> I agree it could be more concise but feel like the
>> > > proposed
>> > > > is
>> > > > > > too
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> concise
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> to as have lost some important meaning.  Many projects
>> > > claim
>> > > > > > > > >> they're
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> lightweight, scalable, and easy to use and almost
>> always
>> > > > that
>> > > > > > just
>> > > > > > > > >>>> isn't
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> true.  We're arguably not 'lightweight' anymore.  We
>> > could
>> > > > > have
>> > > > > > > > >> said
>> > > > > > > > >>>> that
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> when it was a 6 MB download perhaps but now that we're
>> > > > > weighing
>> > > > > > in
>> > > > > > > > >> at
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> 100MB's we probably shouldn't claim that on its own.
>> > > We're
>> > > > > > > > >> certainly
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> 'lightweight' in many important aspects and arguably
>> in
>> > > all
>> > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > >> ways
>> > > > > > > > >>>> that
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> truly matter but we should be at least somewhat
>> > > specific.  I
>> > > > > > agree
>> > > > > > > > >>>> we're
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> scalable but again without context that feels
>> > > misleading.  I
>> > > > > > agree
>> > > > > > > > >> we
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> have
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> an extremely nice UI that is indeed highly
>> configurable
>> > > and
>> > > > > > > > >> intuitive
>> > > > > > > > >>>> but
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> the same thoughts apply which is we should provide
>> some
>> > > > > context
>> > > > > > as
>> > > > > > > > >> to
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> what
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> we mean.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> This is the nice part of this as an open source thing.
>> > We
>> > > > can
>> > > > > > > just
>> > > > > > > > >>> be
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> straight up and precise about the features and what
>> > > they're
>> > > > > good
>> > > > > > > > >> for
>> > > > > > > > >>>> and
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> what they do.  We can even be self deprecating and
>> point
>> > > out
>> > > > > > what
>> > > > > > > > >>> we're
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> not
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> good at.  If it were a commercial construct or we were
>> > > > > marketing
>> > > > > > > > >> then
>> > > > > > > > >>>> we
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> might need to be less specific so as not to exclude
>> some
>> > > > > > potential
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> business
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> area.  But in this case, we're a tiny little open
>> source
>> > > > > project
>> > > > > > > > >> that
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> very
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> few people know about.  We're only going to grow by
>> > being
>> > > > > > > > >>>> straightforward
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> about what it is and attracting those who buy in to
>> that
>> > > > > vision
>> > > > > > > and
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> direction.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> Just thoughts here - i am not asking you to avoid
>> > changing
>> > > > it
>> > > > > > > > >> should
>> > > > > > > > >>>> you
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> feel really strongly that you want to change it.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> Thanks
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> Joe
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 6:04 AM, Jennifer Barnabee <
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Hi Matt et al -
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> The new website design is looking great...  I feel
>> like
>> > > the
>> > > > > > text
>> > > > > > > > >>>> needs
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> to
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> be simpler and more to the point.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> For the tagline under the first Apache nifi heading,
>> I
>> > > > > suggest
>> > > > > > > > >>> making
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> it
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> a
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> bullet rather than including the verb "is". I'd also
>> > like
>> > > > to
>> > > > > > make
>> > > > > > > > >>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> features into simpler bullets. See my suggested text
>> > > > below. I
>> > > > > > > > >> hope
>> > > > > > > > >>> it
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> still
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> captures the essence of what we want to convey, but
>> > > others
>> > > > > may
>> > > > > > > > >> have
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> good
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> suggestions as well...  For example, in the last
>> > bullet,
>> > > I
>> > > > > > don't
>> > > > > > > > >>> know
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> if
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> "client" would be better than "user" or if
>> > > "authentication"
>> > > > > > would
>> > > > > > > > >>> be
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> better
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> than "authorization". You guys probably have a better
>> > > > handle
>> > > > > on
>> > > > > > > > >>> that
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> type
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> of stuff.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> *Apache nifi *
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> - A dataflow system based on the concepts of
>> flow-based
>> > > > > > > > >>> programming.
>> > > > > > > > >>>> It
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> is
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> currently a part of the Apache Incubator.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Apache NiFi supports powerful and scalable directed
>> > > graphs
>> > > > of
>> > > > > > > > >> data
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> routing,
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> transformation, and system mediation logic.
>> High-level
>> > > > > features
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> include:
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Lightweight
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Scalable
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Highly Configurable
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Intuitive User Interface
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Component-based Extension Model
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Fine Grained Data Provenance
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Enterprise & Inter-system Security
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Content Encryption/Decryption
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Pluggable SSL & PKI User Authorization
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> *I kinda don't like that you have to scroll down to
>> see
>> > > all
>> > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> features.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> But I realize it wouldn't bother me if I was looking
>> at
>> > > it
>> > > > on
>> > > > > > my
>> > > > > > > > >>>> phone,
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> so
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> I don't know why I'm complaining about that... *
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Cheers,
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Jenn
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 11:43 PM, Matt Gilman <
>> > > > > > > > >>>> [hidden email]
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> I went ahead and started implementing the website
>> > based
>> > > on
>> > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > >>> most
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> recent
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> feedback and mock ups. I've done just the main page
>> > and
>> > > > put
>> > > > > it
>> > > > > > > > >>>> here:
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> http://nifi.incubator.apache.org/v2/
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Please let me know if there's a more appropriate
>> place
>> > > to
>> > > > > host
>> > > > > > > > >>>> that.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Anyways, I am going to continue working to port over
>> > the
>> > > > > > > > >>> remaining
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> pages
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> and figure out a good way to integrate the
>> > documentation
>> > > > > that
>> > > > > > > > >> is
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> generated
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> from building NiFi. Part of that is likely going to
>> > > depend
>> > > > > on
>> > > > > > > > >>> what
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> repository the site is kept in. What I've done uses
>> a
>> > > > number
>> > > > > > of
>> > > > > > > > >>>> tools
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> (grunt, assemble, bower, etc) to actually build the
>> > > site.
>> > > > I
>> > > > > > > > >>> believe
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Apache CMS tool will be CMing the resulting site.
>> > Where
>> > > do
>> > > > > > > > >> others
>> > > > > > > > >>>> CM
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> actual development artifacts of their sites? I did
>> > find
>> > > > > > another
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> Apache
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> project with a similar set up:
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> https://github.com/jclouds/jclouds-site
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> and they appear to have a separate repository for
>> > there
>> > > > > site.
>> > > > > > > > >>>> Should
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> I
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> be
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> requesting another repository for this? Or should I
>> > just
>> > > > add
>> > > > > > it
>> > > > > > > > >>> to
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> existing incubator-nifi and have a top level folder
>> > for
>> > > > the
>> > > > > > > > >> site?
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Also, I also noticed that jclouds has a deployment
>> > > script
>> > > > > > which
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> appears
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> to
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> automate that process as well. Is this how most
>> > projects
>> > > > > > handle
>> > > > > > > > >>>> site
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> updates?
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Thanks.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Matt
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 8:24 PM, Aldrin Piri <
>> > > > > > > > >>> [hidden email]
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Seems like a fair list of points to resolve.  Let
>> me
>> > > know
>> > > > > how
>> > > > > > > > >>> you
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> want
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> to tackle it and if you'd like me to investigate
>> any
>> > of
>> > > > > them.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> AsciiDoc provides an HTML5 backend [1] that should
>> > > > provide
>> > > > > a
>> > > > > > > > >>> hook
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> to
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> help it be consistent in some form with the rest of
>> > the
>> > > > > site.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> [1]
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > http://www.methods.co.nz/asciidoc/asciidoc.css-embedded.html#X35
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 8:10 AM, Matt Gilman <
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> [hidden email]>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Agreed. Lets see give it a try and see how it
>> > looks. I
>> > > > > > > > >>> thought
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> about
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> possibly just putting the drop in the toolbar but
>> > held
>> > > > off
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> initially
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> but
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> your comment about being consistently visible
>> across
>> > > all
>> > > > > > > > >>> pages
>> > > > > > > > >>>> is
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> on
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> point.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> This brings up another issue that the current
>> > > > > documentation
>> > > > > > > > >>>> loads
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> in
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> a
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> page
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> without the toolbar so that'll have to be
>> addressed.
>> > > > > > > > >> Haven't
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> messed
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> with
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> bootstrap so I'll have to see what's possible.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Outstanding issues...
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> - Better integrate documentation pages into
>> website
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> - Get updated images (and properly scale them)
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> - Update website markup for production use (what I
>> > did
>> > > > was
>> > > > > > > > >>>> quick
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> and
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> just
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> for the mockup so we continue this discussion)
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Anything else I'm forgetting?
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 12:26 AM, Aldrin Piri <
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> [hidden email]>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Matt,
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Looks good here.  I think clean and simple is the
>> > > right
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> direction
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> and
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> this
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> is just another step in that evolution. I think
>> it
>> > > is a
>> > > > > > > > >>> matter
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> of
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> nit-picking at this point so the following
>> comments
>> > > > come
>> > > > > > > > >>> with
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> that
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> scope of
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> importance.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I would like to see the logo make it somewhere on
>> > the
>> > > > > page
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> consistently
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> for
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the sake of keeping it across all pages in the
>> > > site.  I
>> > > > > > > > >>>> realize
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> logo in
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the navbar is rather redundant for the home page,
>> > but
>> > > > on
>> > > > > > > > >> all
>> > > > > > > > >>>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> other
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> pages such as documentation and general project
>> > > > > > > > >> information,
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> there
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> will
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> be
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> no presence in the current state.  One way to
>> > > > compromise
>> > > > > > > > >>> might
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> be
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> to
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> make
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> use of the commonplace technique where the logo
>> on
>> > > the
>> > > > > > > > >> main
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> content
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> area
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> gets placed into the navbar when scrolling would
>> > > > obscure
>> > > > > > > > >> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> logo;
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> all
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> other pages would then just have it in the
>> header.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Maybe a slightly heavier weight on the navbar for
>> > the
>> > > > > menu
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> items.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 22:51 Matt Gilman <
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> [hidden email]>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Aldrin,
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> I like what you did here and it sounds like most
>> > > > people
>> > > > > > > > >> do
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> too.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> I
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wanted
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> to
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> provide some feedback and minor suggestions but
>> > > > thought
>> > > > > > > > >> it
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> would
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> just
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> be
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> easier to mock it up myself rather than trying
>> to
>> > > ask
>> > > > > > > > >> you
>> > > > > > > > >>> to
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> move
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> this
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> here
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> and that there. Anyways, take a peek and lets
>> > > continue
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> iterating.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> I
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> think
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> we're on the right track.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://raw.githubusercontent.
>> > > > > > > > >>>> com/mcgilman/apache-nifi-site/
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> screenshots/index.html.lite.v1.2.png
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Matt
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 10:05 PM, Joe Witt <
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> [hidden email]>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dan,
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> No real thought behind it.  But I personally
>> > agree
>> > > > > > > > >> with
>> > > > > > > > >>>> your
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> statement:
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the logos look good as "nifi" and the text
>> looks
>> > > good
>> > > > > > > > >> as
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> "NiFi"
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 10:03 PM, Daniel Bress
>> <
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aldrin,
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   I think this looks good.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> All,
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Maybe this is a little off topic, but I
>> > noticed
>> > > > > > > > >>> that
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> logos
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> consistently use "nifi" whereas in text its
>> > > > > > > > >>> consistently
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> written
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> as
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "NiFi".  Any reason for the difference?
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   I kind of thing the logos look good as
>> "nifi"
>> > > and
>> > > > > > > > >>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> text
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> looks
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> good
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> as "NiFi" so I might be questioning something
>> > > that I
>> > > > > > > > >>> am
>> > > > > > > > >>>> OK
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> with.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> But I
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> noticed they are different and was wondering
>> if
>> > > this
>> > > > > > > > >>>> was a
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> conscious
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> decision or not.  Thoughts?
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dan Bress
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Software Engineer
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ONYX Consulting Services
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________________
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Joe Witt <[hidden email]>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 6:40 PM
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [hidden email]
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Website Theme
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Solid design and agree with all your comments
>> > > > > > > > >> aldrin.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> Very
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> nice
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2015 6:27 PM, "Aldrin Piri" <
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> [hidden email]>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark,
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the comments.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I actuality tried it without the logo on the
>> > main
>> > > > > > > > >>> page
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> and
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> it
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> felt
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> a
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bit empty.  I don't know that we necessarily
>> > need
>> > > > > > > > >>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> logo
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> there,
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> but
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something is needed.  Additionally, I viewed
>> it
>> > > as
>> > > > > > > > >>>> being
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> just
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> a
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> "front
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page" inclusion, as other pages would just
>> have
>> > > > > > > > >> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>> top
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> navbar.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You caught me.  I was lazy and I recycled the
>> > > > > > > > >>>> screenshot
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> from
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first iteration.  It would definitely need
>> > > > > > > > >> updating,
>> > > > > > > > >>>> but
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> is
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> largely
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just a placeholder for the concept.  I would
>> > > > > > > > >>>> definitely
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> like
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> something
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a bit more engaging.  (faux edit) I
>> rearranged
>> > > > > > > > >>> things
>> > > > > > > > >>>> a
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> bit,
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> removing
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the second instance of the logo and placing
>> > more
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> emphasis
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> on
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> one
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the corner of the application.  Not sure
>> if
>> > I
>> > > > > > > > >>> like
>> > > > > > > > >>>> it
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> better,
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> but
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've provided the results [1] with all three
>> of
>> > > > > > > > >> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> submissions
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> shown
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in chronological order [2].
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The news section is a toss-up for me at this
>> > > > > > > > >>> juncture.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> I
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> could
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> see
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the need one for eventually, but I'm not sure
>> > if
>> > > > > > > > >> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> project
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> is
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> quite
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there yet.  It seemed a common thread among
>> > > > > > > > >>> incubating
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> sites
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> that
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> such
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a section was omitted whereas those top-level
>> > > > > > > > >>> projects
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> typically
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> included one.  Given that the project is on
>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>> verge
>> > > > > > > > >>>> on
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> first
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> of
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the regular releases, perhaps this is
>> > > increasingly
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> pertinent
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> in
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> near future.  At minimum, one of the screen
>> > grabs
>> > > > > > > > >>> from
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> your
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> blog
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> posts
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be a good candidate.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > https://raw.githubusercontent.com/apiri/apache-nifi-site/scr
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> eenshots/index.html.lite.v1.1.png
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > > >
>> > > https://github.com/apiri/apache-nifi-site/blob/screenshots/README.md
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Mark Payne
>> <
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> [hidden email]
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aldrin,
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm liking it! Definitely looks nice.
>> Though I
>> > > > > > > > >>> would
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> provide a
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> bit
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> of
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feedback:
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure that I would include the NiFi
>> > logo
>> > > > > > > > >> on
>> > > > > > > > >>>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> right-hand
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> side,
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since it's already in the top-left.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From a NiFi 'brand' perspective, I would
>> > update
>> > > > > > > > >>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> screenshot a
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> bit.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This screenshot is using the old logo in the
>> > > > > > > > >>> top-left
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> corner,
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> and
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> graph
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shows all of the data disappearing before the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> RouteOnAttribute
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Processor.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd recommend we construct a dataflow that's
>> > more
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> appealing
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> to
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> target
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> audience, perhaps integrating with other
>> Apache
>> > > > > > > > >>>> projects
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> (HDFS,
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Kafka
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible, for instance) or using (S)FTP
>> > > processor.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does it make sense to have maybe like a
>> > 'Latest
>> > > > > > > > >>>> News'
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> section
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> or
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something where we could post things like
>> > > "Version
>> > > > > > > > >>>> 0.0.1
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> just
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> released!"
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc.?
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm really liking the concept - nice job!
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks-Mark
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 07:00:52 -0800
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Website Theme
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: [hidden email]
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [hidden email]
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I like it.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 8:50 PM, Aldrin
>> Piri
>> > <
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I found some time today to provide another
>> > > > > > > > >> look
>> > > > > > > > >>>> for
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> site.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> There
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were very minor changes to the core HTML
>> as
>> > > > > > > > >> is
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> currently
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> served
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> at
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nidi homepage and it is largely just a
>> > > > > > > > >>>> stylesheet.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> This
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> one
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> is
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> highly
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minimal and clean, still driven by
>> Bootstrap
>> > > > > > > > >>> and
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> directly
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> makes
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> use
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the colors from the UI itself.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A screenshot can be seen at
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > https://raw.githubusercontent.com/apiri/apache-nifi-site/scr
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> eenshots/index.html.lite.png
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the associated code under the "lite"
>> > > > > > > > >>> branch
>> > > > > > > > >>>> at
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> https://github.com/apiri/apache-nifi-site/tree/lite
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any thoughts are appreciated.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 9:54 PM, Aldrin
>> Piri
>> > <
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry if this somehow gets sent twice.
>>  My
>> > > > > > > > >>>> first
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> submission
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> seemed
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bounce as it exceeded the spam threshold
>> > > > > > > > >>> when I
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> sent
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> it a
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> couple
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hours ago and it has yet to appear, so
>> I'm
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> sending
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> again.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> First and foremost, good feedback.  I
>> think
>> > > > > > > > >>>> UI/UX
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> stuff
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> is
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> tricky
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am happy to find my livelihood in the
>> > > > > > > > >>>> plumbing
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> and
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> behind
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scenes
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's my attempt to try and tackle all
>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> comments
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> in
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> one
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> fell
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> swoop:
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree that Bootstrap is everywhere,
>> but I
>> > > > > > > > >>>> don't
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> necessarily
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is a bad thing.  One could argue
>> that
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> interfaces
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> of
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> all
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> forms
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> converging and users have the instant
>> > > > > > > > >>>> familiarity
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> of
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> a
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> known
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quantity.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know that I am totally unaware of what
>> it
>> > > > > > > > >>>> takes
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> to
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> make a
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> site
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> functional and maintain its feel across
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> devices.  I
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> think
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> that
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> last
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> part is important.  Personally, as a user
>> > > > > > > > >> on
>> > > > > > > > >>>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> other
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> side
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> of
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screen, I don't really understand why
>> sites
>> > > > > > > > >>> do
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> not
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> work
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> or
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> jive
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my mobile device du jour these days; it
>> > > > > > > > >>> should
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> just
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> work.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> With
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> little I've learned about UX and "Not
>> > > > > > > > >> Making
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> [Anyone]
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Think,"[1] I
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want an effortless experience; no pinch
>> > > > > > > > >>>> zooming,
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> tap
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> panning,
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> etc.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there is a way to take bits and pieces of
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> bootstrap
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> to
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> this
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> end
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support that aspect without the cookie
>> > > > > > > > >> cutter
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> air,
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> I
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> would
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> be
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> quite
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thankful for some guidance on that front
>> > > > > > > > >> and
>> > > > > > > > >>> do
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> my
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> best
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> to
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> provide
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Out of the box though, the sample looked
>> > > > > > > > >>> pretty
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> decent
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> across
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> devices to which I had access, and used
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> constructs
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> everyone
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> who
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> views
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> content through a tiny screen is
>> > > > > > > > >> accustomed.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do agree on the front of the
>> possibility
>> > > > > > > > >> of
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> brand
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> dilution,
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think it is an excellent point for
>> > > > > > > > >>>> consideration.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> As
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> original mailing, consideration was given
>> > > > > > > > >> to
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> integrating
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> application's aesthetics into the core
>> > > > > > > > >> site.
>> > > > > > > > >>>> Not
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> sure
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> if
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> this
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pan out in an appreciable way as I can
>> see
>> > > > > > > > >> it
>> > > > > > > > >>>> in
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> my
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> mind,
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> but
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> I
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> do
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feel it is an avenue worth exploring.  It
>> > > > > > > > >> may
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> also
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> completely
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> miss
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mark, but with my new found web dev
>> > > > > > > > >> prowess,
>> > > > > > > > >>> it
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> should
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> be a
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> much
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quicker iteration than the first draft.
>> > > > > > > > >>> You'll
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> see a
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> slight
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> homage
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this via the graph wallpaper that is
>> > > > > > > > >> featured
>> > > > > > > > >>>> in
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> application
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> itself.  This was muted a bit by a CSS
>> > > > > > > > >>> overlay
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> to a
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> level
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> that
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seemed
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> okay, but I definitely hedged as to
>> whether
>> > > > > > > > >>> or
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> not
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> to
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> include
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ultimately, I wanted to get something out
>> > > > > > > > >> to
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> start
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> ball
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rolling,
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> establishing a base for successive
>> > > > > > > > >>>> iterations.  I
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> know
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> that
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> with
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the hard work everyone is putting in, the
>> > > > > > > > >>>> project
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> is
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> closely
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reaching
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its first milestone for release, and
>> > > > > > > > >> thought
>> > > > > > > > >>> it
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> important to
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> chip
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where possible to give a face to the
>> > > > > > > > >> project.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Additionally, I think this particular
>> > > > > > > > >> project
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> needs
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> pictures
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> to
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> demonstrate what it's capabilities.  One
>> of
>> > > > > > > > >>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> facets
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> that
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> makes
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me a
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believer about NiFi as a whole is that
>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>> end
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> user
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> is
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> not
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> just
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> developers.  Citing the previous example
>> of
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> Accumulo,
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> its
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> intended
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> audience is very technical in nature and,
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> accordingly,
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> a
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> lot
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> can
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expressed via the simple phrase of
>> > > > > > > > >> "key-value
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> store."
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> I
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> would
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contend
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that NiFi's reach is far broader and
>> can't
>> > > > > > > > >> be
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> done
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> justice
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> with
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simple phrase.  For the casual potential
>> > > > > > > > >> user
>> > > > > > > > >>>> who
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> has
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> strung
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> together
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> n-many processes of taking a file,
>> manually
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> transforming
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> it,
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> and
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moving it elsewhere, they need to see at
>> > > > > > > > >>> quick
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> glance
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> that
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> there
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something that can automate this tedium
>> and
>> > > > > > > > >>>> make
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> them
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> more
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effective.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Succinctly, the value proposition needs
>> to
>> > > > > > > > >> be
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> there
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> not
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> only
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> for
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> technical folks who will use this as a
>> > > > > > > > >>>> framework,
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> but
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> additionally
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> end users.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The background for the header isn't
>> > > > > > > > >> awesome,
>> > > > > > > > >>>> but
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> I
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> knew I
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wasn't
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> violating any licenses if I generated it
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> myself.  I
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> viewed
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> it
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> more
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a placeholder than anything else.
>> > > > > > > > >> Definitely
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> not a
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> front
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> end
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> web
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> developer, even more definitively not a
>> > > > > > > > >>> graphic
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> artist.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> The
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> colors
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> came from starting with the logo dark
>> blue
>> > > > > > > > >>> and
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> running
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> a
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> whole
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bunch
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of filters and plugins via GIMP to get
>> > > > > > > > >>>> something.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Additionally,
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a CSS gradient applied over top of it
>> as
>> > > > > > > > >>>> well
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> when
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> it
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> seemed
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bit
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too loud.  It could definitely deal with
>> > > > > > > > >>> being
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> muted
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> a
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> bit
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> more.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] http://www.sensible.com/dmmt.html
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 12:57 PM, Tony
>> Kurc
>> > > > > > > > >> <
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey! It looks awesome! The existing site
>> > > > > > > > >> was
>> > > > > > > > >>>> put
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> together a
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> placeholder
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we went with a very generic layout that
>> > > > > > > > >>> worked
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> well
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> with
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CMS and
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contained all the information expected
>> of
>> > > > > > > > >> an
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> apache
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> process.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a big improvement! For people
>> new
>> > > > > > > > >> to
>> > > > > > > > >>>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> project,
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> it
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> gives
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nice
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> upfront screenshot, with big fat links
>> for
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> things
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> I
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> care
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> about
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seeing!
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some things I didn't like about the
>> > > > > > > > >> existing
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> site
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> are
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> glyphicon
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to "external" sites on the menu. I used
>> > > > > > > > >>>> "link",
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> but
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> I
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> think
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> it
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meant to
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be used for "permalink". Also, we kind
>> of
>> > > > > > > > >>>> took a
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> best
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> guess
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should go in each dropdown in the menu.
>> > > > > > > > >> I'm
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> pretty
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> sure
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> it
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> could
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> organized. I'd also like to see the
>> > > > > > > > >> awesome
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> guides
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> that
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> people
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consistent theme with the website and
>> > > > > > > > >> maybe
>> > > > > > > > >>>> have
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> pdfs
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> so
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> old-school
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folks
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can print them out (which may be a dumb
>> > > > > > > > >> idea
>> > > > > > > > >>>> ;)
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> )
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> A
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> pet
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> peeve
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mine of
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> projects is having a hard time finding
>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> documentation I
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> need,
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> javadocs or specifications - and keeping
>> > > > > > > > >>>> around
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> older
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> versions
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documentation. I think we're still
>> working
>> > > > > > > > >>> on
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> these
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> -
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> since
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> you
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> retained
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the menu up top it should be
>> > > > > > > > >> straightforward
>> > > > > > > > >>>> to
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> have a
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> robust
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documentation
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dropdown.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The blue you used is more of a reddish
>> or
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> purplish
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> blue
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> -
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> blue
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> used
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the app is more of a greenish blue. I'm
>> > > > > > > > >> kind
>> > > > > > > > >>>> of
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> curious
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> what
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> a
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> greener
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blue
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would look like ... did you mock one up
>> > > > > > > > >> and
>> > > > > > > > >>> it
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> looked
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> bad?
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Or
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe a
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fundamental question, should the website
>> > > > > > > > >>> evoke
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> theme of
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> app? I
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't know how I feel.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tony
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Joe
>> Witt
>> > > > > > > > >> <
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd say the two sides of the spectrum
>> as
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> examples
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> are:
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://kafka.apache.org/  [super
>> > > > > > > > >>> minimalist]
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://aurora.incubator.apache.org/ [
>> > > > > > > > >>> quite
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> fancy
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> looking ]
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Both in my opinion are beautifully done
>> > > > > > > > >> and
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> make
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> it
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> easy
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> to
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> content
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needed.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think these (and others) provide
>> great
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> examples
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> that
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> both
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sides
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spectrum have merit.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is most important to me is that we
>> > > > > > > > >> as
>> > > > > > > > >>> a
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> community
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> rally
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> behind
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the expertise and willingness to
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> contribute
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> in
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> this
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> space.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Joe
>> > > > > > > > >> Witt <
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Both are bootstrap based.  Each is an
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> iterative
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> improvement.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And we
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep iterating as folks have time,
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> willingness,
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> and
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> expertise
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree that this new look does not
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> distinguish a
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> brand.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> But
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we're
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mature enough to worry about that yet.
>> > > > > > > > >>> We
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> just
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> need
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> enough
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info laid out enough to help grow a
>> > > > > > > > >>>> community
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> and
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> get
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> folks
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need.  We need it laid out in a way
>> > > > > > > > >> that
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> multiple
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> folks
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> can
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contribute.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once we have a release, recruit some
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> committers,
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> demonstrate
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> progress on
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Apache Way and grow then perhaps
>> > > > > > > > >>>> branding
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> becomes a
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> bigger
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deal.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ..this motivates me to spawn another
>> > > > > > > > >>> thread
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> about
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> type
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to be...
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Adam
>> > > > > > > > >>> Taft
>> > > > > > > > >>>> <
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This isn't a downvote -- I think it
>> > > > > > > > >>> indeed
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> looks
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> good.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> But
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> terms of
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> constructive criticism...
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the mockup looks like a very
>> > > > > > > > >>>> generic
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> "bootstrap"
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> site,
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> similar
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> million other bootstrap based sites.
>> > > > > > > > >>> I'd
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> personally
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> almost
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prefer
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> existing utilitarian website over a
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> bootstrap
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> theme,
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> simply
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't try to be anything more than
>> > > > > > > > >>> what
>> > > > > > > > >>>> it
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> is.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This approach might be an acceptable
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> tradeoff
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> for
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> project;
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> having
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bootstrap look & feel is obviously a
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> resource
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> savings
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> and
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right price point.  But the site
>> > > > > > > > >> mockup
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> definitely
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distinguish
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache NiFi "brand" in anyway. In
>> fact
>> > > > > > > > >>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> opposite,
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> brand
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gets
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> watered
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> down with this look.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As a funny side note, humorously for
>> > > > > > > > >> me,
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> this
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> was
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> first
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> head when I saw the site:
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2010-04-01/
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Adam
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 7:39 PM,
>> Aldrin
>> > > > > > > > >>>> Piri
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> <
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In partial fulfillment of the goals
>> > > > > > > > >> of
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> NIFI-162, I
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> set
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> some
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aside
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> put together something a bit more
>> > > > > > > > >>>> visually
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> appealing
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> as a
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> face
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My work can be found at:
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apiri/apache-nifi-site
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently, work focused around the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> homepage,
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> but
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> similar
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> styles
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> applied to more content driven pages
>> > > > > > > > >>>> minus
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> large
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> headlining
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sections.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The relevant technology colophon is
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> provided
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> in
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> README
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Github
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but is
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> primarily driven by Bootstrap,
>> > > > > > > > >>> existing
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> image
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> resources
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> included
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project and current site, and other
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> "artwork"
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> which I
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> created
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> myself.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am neither a UX expert nor am I a
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> renowned
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> front
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> end
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> designer,
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> input is welcome.  As a "version
>> > > > > > > > >> 1.1"
>> > > > > > > > >>> I
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> would
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> like to
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> adjust
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> converge more with the application.
>> > > > > > > > >>>> Ideas
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> for
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> this
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> are
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inclusive
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> points
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> such as bringing the toolbar styling
>> > > > > > > > >>> and
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> color
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> scheme
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> application
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the site.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If this seems like a reasonable path
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> forward
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> and
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> there
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> is
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sufficient
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support, I can look at the next
>> > > > > > > > >> steps
>> > > > > > > > >>> to
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> get
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> this
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> integrated
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project, optimization, and
>> > > > > > > > >> integration
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> with
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> application
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> itself.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To aid in showing the intangibles
>> > > > > > > > >> that
>> > > > > > > > >>>>> can't
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> be
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> seen
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> from
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> an
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> image, I
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a copy of this design hosted at
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://aldrinpiri.com/apache-nifi/.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links are currently nonfunctional as
>> > > > > > > > >>>> they
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> were
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> taken
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> from
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> current
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site.
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --Aldrin
>> > > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
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should I make a ticket for documenting maintaining the website? I couldn't
find one.

On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 5:29 PM, Joe Witt <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Matt
>
> What can I do now to help with maintaining v2 stuff?  Do I edit the
> files in Git or the files in SVN?  Don't want to mess with it yet
> because I don't understand it.  But if you can give me a few pointers
> I can help.
>
> Thanks
> Joe
>
> On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Matt Gilman <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> > I have an idea of how its going to work. However, once we reach out to
> > infrastructure regarding the external build (if necessary) we'll know for
> > sure [1]. After that discussion I will update nifi-site in our Git repo
> > accordingly. It says that the mailing list is infrastructure@, does that
> > mean [hidden email]?
> >
> > Mark had an idea about an updated screenshot but higher priority things
> > have popped up. The image can be updated whenever its ready [2].
> >
> > If you have any other ideas for media we should incorporate (other
> > screenshots, FAQs, videos, etc) let me know.
> >
> > [1] http://www.apache.org/dev/cms.html#external
> > [2]
> >
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-nifi/blob/develop/nifi-site/src/images/flow.png
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 9:17 AM, Joe Witt <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> >> Matt
> >>
> >> It looks good.  Before we switch we should get the mechanics of update
> >> documented.   Do you know that or is it TBD?
> >>
> >> Also do you need assistance with updating the screenshot?
> >>
> >> Joe
> >> On Feb 8, 2015 4:45 AM, "Matt Gilman" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Barring any objections, I'd like to more forward with the updated
> website
> >> > [1]. I've kept up with the changes with the exception of those from
> the
> >> > last few days. Assuming everyone is on board I will reach out to INFRA
> >> > about the possibilities for the website build. Based on that
> >> conservation I
> >> > will update the nifi-site in our Git repo [2] accordingly. I am
> assuming
> >> > that we'll be doing an external build and part of that build will be
> >> > deploying the site using SVN.
> >> >
> >> > [1] https://nifi.incubator.apache.org/v2/
> >> > [2] https://github.com/apache/incubator-nifi/tree/develop/nifi-site
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 3:28 AM, Jennifer Barnabee <
> >> > [hidden email]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I think that's perfect!
> >> > >
> >> > > On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 10:08 PM, Joe Witt <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Hello
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Made some of these suggested edits/simplifications to the current
> >> site.
> >> > > > New tagline
> >> > > >
> >> > > > "Apache NiFi is an easy to use, powerful, and reliable system to
> >> > process
> >> > > > and distribute data."
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Also removed the jumbotron block as it was causing some really
> >> strange
> >> > > text
> >> > > > sizing issues.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Jenn - does this seem more like what you were thinking?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Thanks
> >> > > > Joe
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 11:03 PM, Matt Gilman <
> >> [hidden email]
> >> > >
> >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > Aldrin,
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > What you've outline is exactly what I am looking to accomplish,
> I'm
> >> > > just
> >> > > > > trying to figure out all the pieces. I think I have a handle on
> >> > > > everything
> >> > > > > except actual publishing of the site. Though I believe the email
> >> you
> >> > > sent
> >> > > > > out earlier indicates that we just need to discuss the matter
> >> further
> >> > > > with
> >> > > > > infrastructure@ mailing list. I tried committing a change
> (outside
> >> > of
> >> > > > CMS)
> >> > > > > to the staging repository hoping it would kick off the
> publishing.
> >> It
> >> > > did
> >> > > > > not.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > I have prototyped the site artifacts which can be built into the
> >> > static
> >> > > > > site. I still need to copy over the existing content but I'm
> trying
> >> > to
> >> > > > > figure out where this is going to live first. Barring any
> >> objections
> >> > I
> >> > > am
> >> > > > > going to create (likely tomorrow) a nifi-site directory at the
> root
> >> > of
> >> > > > our
> >> > > > > Git repository and go from there. Currently everything is living
> >> in a
> >> > > > > repository that I forked from the work that Aldrin had started.
> >> > > Anyways,
> >> > > > I
> >> > > > > believe moving it to the project Git repository puts the site
> in a
> >> > more
> >> > > > > accessible place where others can contribute as necessary.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > As I mentioned to Dan earlier, I am hoping that we can utilize a
> >> > maven
> >> > > > > plugin [1] to deploy the relevant documentation (processor,
> guides,
> >> > > > > javadocs) from the application build to a predefined location.
> The
> >> > site
> >> > > > > would just reference it from there. This would keep the site and
> >> > > > > application builds independent which I think is desirable.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > [1] http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-scm-publish-plugin/
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 10:30 PM, Aldrin Piri <
> >> [hidden email]>
> >> > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > All the comments have been good but are a bit beyond where the
> >> > > current
> >> > > > > > platform for them needs to be.  Additionally, with a site more
> >> > > > accessible
> >> > > > > > and live, changes can be made via contributions. Trying to
> route
> >> > > things
> >> > > > > > back on topic a bit as there are external dependencies on some
> >> > > > > "finalized"
> >> > > > > > state of the site, I did some research into how other projects
> >> are
> >> > > > > > accomplishing this based off of Matt's notes.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Matt, looking at jclouds, it appears as though they also use
> the
> >> > ASF
> >> > > > > > infrastructure to manage their site, but perform a build
> through
> >> a
> >> > > > script
> >> > > > > > [1], invoking Jekyll to generate the static pages pushed to
> the
> >> > infra
> >> > > > > SVN;
> >> > > > > > it is a home-brewed git+svn of sorts, but the overall concept
> >> makes
> >> > > > > sense.
> >> > > > > > Given the technologies you listed, this seems like a fair
> >> approach
> >> > to
> >> > > > > > utilize the build tools right for the job while simultaneously
> >> not
> >> > > > > > requiring a special setup as outlined in the Apache CMS
> >> information
> >> > > > [2],
> >> > > > > > the community can freely pick the technologies they wish with
> the
> >> > > > notion
> >> > > > > > that the interface between site code and the actual view is
> >> static
> >> > > html
> >> > > > > > committed to the Infra SVN repo.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > The one area that I think is important to address though is
> the
> >> > > > > > incorporation of the material being generated in the git
> >> repository
> >> > > and
> >> > > > > as
> >> > > > > > a product of the build process.  Quickly brainstorming a way
> to
> >> > > attack
> >> > > > > this
> >> > > > > > would be:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > 1.  provide a top level folder in the NiFi git repository,
> 'site'
> >> > > > (Matt
> >> > > > > > posed this as a possibility to which no one had any
> objections,
> >> so
> >> > it
> >> > > > > seems
> >> > > > > > like a reasonable path forward)
> >> > > > > > 2.  provide a script that compiles the site, making use of the
> >> > > desired
> >> > > > > > tools assuming the structure of the site
> >> > > > > > 3.  provide orchestration of the core codebase and the site
> >> > > > > >   a.  through Maven and possibly the exec or similar plugin,
> >> > profile,
> >> > > > or
> >> > > > > > other avenue, build the codebase needed (mvn -pl -am may do
> the
> >> > job)
> >> > > > > >   b.  call the script to generate the static structure of the
> >> site
> >> > > > which
> >> > > > > > has a build target that is a copy of the svn checkout to make
> use
> >> > of
> >> > > > the
> >> > > > > > diff (maybe there is a way to use git+svn to make this work
> in a
> >> > less
> >> > > > > > cumbersome manner)
> >> > > > > > 4.  commit to infra subversion
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > The code for the site is easily accessible and allows
> submission
> >> of
> >> > > > > patches
> >> > > > > > via git while using the tools that make sense for
> accomplishing
> >> > what
> >> > > is
> >> > > > > > needed; Subversion just becomes the means for content
> delivery.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > There are certainly a number of details to iron out with the
> >> above
> >> > > > plan.
> >> > > > > > The biggest item is taking the disparate formats (asciidoc,
> >> > processor
> >> > > > > > documentation) and condensing them into the HTML/CSS template
> set
> >> > > > forth,
> >> > > > > > but both have provisions for specifying CSS, so it is
> certainly
> >> > > doable.
> >> > > > > > The above method allows for the avoidance of committing
> generated
> >> > > files
> >> > > > > to
> >> > > > > > the core codebase (obviously, all generated files compose the
> SVN
> >> > > > site),
> >> > > > > > and allows for a direct correlation between documentation and
> a
> >> > given
> >> > > > > > commit while simultaneously not binding the site explicitly to
> >> SVN
> >> > or
> >> > > > ASF
> >> > > > > > CMS.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > One item that seems problematic with the above plan is that it
> >> > would
> >> > > > > remove
> >> > > > > > the ease of submitting a patch via the provided bookmarklet
> that
> >> > > works
> >> > > > > with
> >> > > > > > the CMS.  This becomes a manual process to find the source
> >> content
> >> > > and
> >> > > > > > apply the patch to it in Git.  Although to some extent, this
> is
> >> > > already
> >> > > > > the
> >> > > > > > case given the use of Asciidoc and the Processor
> documentation.
> >> > Not
> >> > > > sure
> >> > > > > > if it is a deal breaker or not, but it is a point of
> >> consideration.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > [1]
> >> > > https://github.com/jclouds/jclouds-site/blob/master/deploy-site.sh
> >> > > > > > [2] http://www.apache.org/dev/cms.html#external
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Jennifer Barnabee <
> >> > > > > > [hidden email]> wrote:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > You guys are totally right.  Ok, as a starting point, what
> >> about
> >> > > this
> >> > > > > or
> >> > > > > > > something like this?
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Apache NiFi is a highly configurable and intuitive dataflow
> >> > > > management
> >> > > > > > > system.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > -Jenn
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Donald Miner <
> >> > > > [hidden email]>
> >> > > > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > Same here, never heard of fbp.
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > I like the Accumulo blurb on the front page a lot:
> >> > > > > > > > The Apache Accumulo™ sorted, distributed key/value store
> is a
> >> > > > robust,
> >> > > > > > > > scalable, high performance data storage and retrieval
> system.
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > (I think i based my suggestion on this). It just gets to
> the
> >> > > point
> >> > > > > and
> >> > > > > > as
> >> > > > > > > > a technologist that has a clue or two I know what it is
> >> trying
> >> > to
> >> > > > do.
> >> > > > > > > > Another example Kafka: "A high-throughput distributed
> >> messaging
> >> > > > > > system. "
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > On Jan 29, 2015, at 5:07 PM, Joey Echeverria <
> >> > [hidden email]
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > Just to clarify, I wasn't advocating that it should be
> >> > removed
> >> > > > (I'm
> >> > > > > > not
> >> > > > > > > > > really advocating for anything). My point was meant to
> >> > > illustrate
> >> > > > > > that
> >> > > > > > > > it's
> >> > > > > > > > > not a draw, but it is potentially an educational
> reference.
> >> > So,
> >> > > > it
> >> > > > > > > > depends
> >> > > > > > > > > on how you want to use the real-estate in the tag line.
> >> > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > On Thu Jan 29 2015 at 11:19:38 AM Joe Witt <
> >> > [hidden email]
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > >> We can get rid of the FBP reference.  I'll just be the
> >> > excited
> >> > > > > tech
> >> > > > > > > guy
> >> > > > > > > > in
> >> > > > > > > > >> the corner of the conference that keeps talking about
> it.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> On Jan 29, 2015 1:00 PM, "Joey Echeverria" <
> >> > > [hidden email]>
> >> > > > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>> I understand that flow-based programming is very
> >> important
> >> > as
> >> > > > the
> >> > > > > > > model
> >> > > > > > > > >> of
> >> > > > > > > > >>> NiFi, but I don't think it's a widely understood term.
> >> > FWIW,
> >> > > I
> >> > > > > > hadn't
> >> > > > > > > > >> heard
> >> > > > > > > > >>> of it until I started working with NiFi.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>> On Thu Jan 29 2015 at 9:56:10 AM Jennifer Barnabee <
> >> > > > > > > > >>> [hidden email]> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> Hi Donald,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> I like your tagline sentence for the most part.
> Thanks
> >> so
> >> > > much
> >> > > > > for
> >> > > > > > > > >>> sending
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> it. Maybe it can get us to where we want to be...
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> I have these thoughts to add...
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> a) I think we want to honor that flow-based
> programming
> >> is
> >> > > the
> >> > > > > > basis
> >> > > > > > > > of
> >> > > > > > > > >>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> software. So, that's important, and I think that's
> why
> >> it
> >> > > went
> >> > > > > > into
> >> > > > > > > > the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> tagline. But I'm not sure whether it has to be
> >> > specifically
> >> > > > > there.
> >> > > > > > > > >>> Someone
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> else can weigh in on that.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> b) My only problem with your tagline is the last
> part:
> >> > > > > "transform
> >> > > > > > > and
> >> > > > > > > > >>> move
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> files". One thing is - we don't want to limit NiFi to
> >> > being
> >> > > > only
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> file-based. Secondly, moving and transforming data is
> >> not
> >> > > all
> >> > > > > that
> >> > > > > > > > NiFi
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> does. In truth, NiFi is not just a dataflow system.
> >> It's a
> >> > > > > > dataflow
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> management system. And that encompasses everything
> about
> >> > the
> >> > > > > > > dataflow,
> >> > > > > > > > >>> from
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> how the data moves and/or gets transformed and
> routed,
> >> to
> >> > > how
> >> > > > > you
> >> > > > > > > > >> monitor
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> that, how you track down the data, how you configure
> and
> >> > > > design
> >> > > > > > the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> dataflow to be better, etc.  The moving and
> transforming
> >> > > parts
> >> > > > > are
> >> > > > > > > > just
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> some of the extension points. It's the framework that
> >> > allows
> >> > > > you
> >> > > > > > to
> >> > > > > > > > >>> manage
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> *whatever* you do with the data.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> So, now that I've rambled on, it's clear that I can't
> >> come
> >> > > up
> >> > > > > with
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> something concise. I think I may be too close to
> >> > everything
> >> > > > :-)
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> But I think you are on the right track! I would be
> happy
> >> > to
> >> > > > know
> >> > > > > > > what
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> others think. It would be great if people could land
> on
> >> > the
> >> > > > page
> >> > > > > > and
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> quickly understand what NiFi is. So far, your
> sentence
> >> > would
> >> > > > get
> >> > > > > > > > people
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> closer to that than anything I have proposed.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> Cheers,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> Jenn
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:36 AM, Donald Miner <
> >> > > > > > > [hidden email]
> >> > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> On the subject of taglines, a minor nitpick (sorry).
> >> I'm
> >> > > > just a
> >> > > > > > fan
> >> > > > > > > > >> of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> concise and meaningful taglines.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> "is a dataflow system based on the concepts of
> >> flow-based
> >> > > > > > > > >> programming.
> >> > > > > > > > >>> It
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> is currently a part of the Apache Incubator." is
> rather
> >> > > > wordy.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> "flow" and "based" are in this sentence twice, which
> >> > makes
> >> > > it
> >> > > > > > kind
> >> > > > > > > of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> awkward. Does flow-based programming really matter
> >> enough
> >> > > to
> >> > > > be
> >> > > > > > > part
> >> > > > > > > > >> of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> tagline? Maybe it should just be a bullet point
> below.
> >> > Same
> >> > > > > with
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> incubator
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> status... I think that's readily available
> information
> >> > that
> >> > > > > > doesn't
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> necessarily need to be in the tagline (and would
> >> > eventually
> >> > > > > > > change).
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> Here's my stab:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> "The Apache NiFi dataflow system is an easy to use,
> >> > highly
> >> > > > > > > > >>> configurable,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> extendable, and reliable way to transform and move
> >> > files."
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> I think the list of properties in the middle of my
> >> > sentence
> >> > > > > could
> >> > > > > > > be
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> replaced by someone who has a better idea of what
> the
> >> > true
> >> > > > > > sticking
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> points
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> for NiFi will be.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> -d
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Joe Witt <
> >> > > > [hidden email]>
> >> > > > > > > > >> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> Jenn
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> Apologies for the delayed feedback.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> I agree it could be more concise but feel like the
> >> > > proposed
> >> > > > is
> >> > > > > > too
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> concise
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> to as have lost some important meaning.  Many
> projects
> >> > > claim
> >> > > > > > > > >> they're
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> lightweight, scalable, and easy to use and almost
> >> always
> >> > > > that
> >> > > > > > just
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> isn't
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> true.  We're arguably not 'lightweight' anymore.
> We
> >> > could
> >> > > > > have
> >> > > > > > > > >> said
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> that
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> when it was a 6 MB download perhaps but now that
> we're
> >> > > > > weighing
> >> > > > > > in
> >> > > > > > > > >> at
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> 100MB's we probably shouldn't claim that on its
> own.
> >> > > We're
> >> > > > > > > > >> certainly
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> 'lightweight' in many important aspects and
> arguably
> >> in
> >> > > all
> >> > > > > the
> >> > > > > > > > >> ways
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> that
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> truly matter but we should be at least somewhat
> >> > > specific.  I
> >> > > > > > agree
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> we're
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> scalable but again without context that feels
> >> > > misleading.  I
> >> > > > > > agree
> >> > > > > > > > >> we
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> have
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> an extremely nice UI that is indeed highly
> >> configurable
> >> > > and
> >> > > > > > > > >> intuitive
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> but
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> the same thoughts apply which is we should provide
> >> some
> >> > > > > context
> >> > > > > > as
> >> > > > > > > > >> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> what
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> we mean.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> This is the nice part of this as an open source
> thing.
> >> > We
> >> > > > can
> >> > > > > > > just
> >> > > > > > > > >>> be
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> straight up and precise about the features and what
> >> > > they're
> >> > > > > good
> >> > > > > > > > >> for
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> and
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> what they do.  We can even be self deprecating and
> >> point
> >> > > out
> >> > > > > > what
> >> > > > > > > > >>> we're
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> not
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> good at.  If it were a commercial construct or we
> were
> >> > > > > marketing
> >> > > > > > > > >> then
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> we
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> might need to be less specific so as not to exclude
> >> some
> >> > > > > > potential
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> business
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> area.  But in this case, we're a tiny little open
> >> source
> >> > > > > project
> >> > > > > > > > >> that
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> very
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> few people know about.  We're only going to grow by
> >> > being
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> straightforward
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> about what it is and attracting those who buy in to
> >> that
> >> > > > > vision
> >> > > > > > > and
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> direction.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> Just thoughts here - i am not asking you to avoid
> >> > changing
> >> > > > it
> >> > > > > > > > >> should
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> you
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> feel really strongly that you want to change it.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> Thanks
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> Joe
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 6:04 AM, Jennifer Barnabee
> <
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> [hidden email]> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Hi Matt et al -
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> The new website design is looking great...  I feel
> >> like
> >> > > the
> >> > > > > > text
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> needs
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> be simpler and more to the point.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> For the tagline under the first Apache nifi
> heading,
> >> I
> >> > > > > suggest
> >> > > > > > > > >>> making
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> it
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> bullet rather than including the verb "is". I'd
> also
> >> > like
> >> > > > to
> >> > > > > > make
> >> > > > > > > > >>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> features into simpler bullets. See my suggested
> text
> >> > > > below. I
> >> > > > > > > > >> hope
> >> > > > > > > > >>> it
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> still
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> captures the essence of what we want to convey,
> but
> >> > > others
> >> > > > > may
> >> > > > > > > > >> have
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> good
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> suggestions as well...  For example, in the last
> >> > bullet,
> >> > > I
> >> > > > > > don't
> >> > > > > > > > >>> know
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> if
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> "client" would be better than "user" or if
> >> > > "authentication"
> >> > > > > > would
> >> > > > > > > > >>> be
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> better
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> than "authorization". You guys probably have a
> better
> >> > > > handle
> >> > > > > on
> >> > > > > > > > >>> that
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> type
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> of stuff.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> *Apache nifi *
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> - A dataflow system based on the concepts of
> >> flow-based
> >> > > > > > > > >>> programming.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> It
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> is
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> currently a part of the Apache Incubator.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Apache NiFi supports powerful and scalable
> directed
> >> > > graphs
> >> > > > of
> >> > > > > > > > >> data
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> routing,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> transformation, and system mediation logic.
> >> High-level
> >> > > > > features
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> include:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Lightweight
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Scalable
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Highly Configurable
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Intuitive User Interface
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Component-based Extension Model
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Fine Grained Data Provenance
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Enterprise & Inter-system Security
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Content Encryption/Decryption
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Pluggable SSL & PKI User Authorization
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> *I kinda don't like that you have to scroll down
> to
> >> see
> >> > > all
> >> > > > > the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> features.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> But I realize it wouldn't bother me if I was
> looking
> >> at
> >> > > it
> >> > > > on
> >> > > > > > my
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> phone,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> so
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> I don't know why I'm complaining about that... *
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Cheers,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Jenn
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 11:43 PM, Matt Gilman <
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> [hidden email]
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> I went ahead and started implementing the website
> >> > based
> >> > > on
> >> > > > > the
> >> > > > > > > > >>> most
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> recent
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> feedback and mock ups. I've done just the main
> page
> >> > and
> >> > > > put
> >> > > > > it
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> here:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> http://nifi.incubator.apache.org/v2/
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Please let me know if there's a more appropriate
> >> place
> >> > > to
> >> > > > > host
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> that.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Anyways, I am going to continue working to port
> over
> >> > the
> >> > > > > > > > >>> remaining
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> pages
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> and figure out a good way to integrate the
> >> > documentation
> >> > > > > that
> >> > > > > > > > >> is
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> generated
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> from building NiFi. Part of that is likely going
> to
> >> > > depend
> >> > > > > on
> >> > > > > > > > >>> what
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> repository the site is kept in. What I've done
> uses
> >> a
> >> > > > number
> >> > > > > > of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> tools
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> (grunt, assemble, bower, etc) to actually build
> the
> >> > > site.
> >> > > > I
> >> > > > > > > > >>> believe
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Apache CMS tool will be CMing the resulting site.
> >> > Where
> >> > > do
> >> > > > > > > > >> others
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> CM
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> actual development artifacts of their sites? I
> did
> >> > find
> >> > > > > > another
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> Apache
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> project with a similar set up:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> https://github.com/jclouds/jclouds-site
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> and they appear to have a separate repository for
> >> > there
> >> > > > > site.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> Should
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> I
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> be
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> requesting another repository for this? Or
> should I
> >> > just
> >> > > > add
> >> > > > > > it
> >> > > > > > > > >>> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> existing incubator-nifi and have a top level
> folder
> >> > for
> >> > > > the
> >> > > > > > > > >> site?
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Also, I also noticed that jclouds has a
> deployment
> >> > > script
> >> > > > > > which
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> appears
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> automate that process as well. Is this how most
> >> > projects
> >> > > > > > handle
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> site
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> updates?
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Thanks.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Matt
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 8:24 PM, Aldrin Piri <
> >> > > > > > > > >>> [hidden email]
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Seems like a fair list of points to resolve.
> Let
> >> me
> >> > > know
> >> > > > > how
> >> > > > > > > > >>> you
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> want
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> to tackle it and if you'd like me to investigate
> >> any
> >> > of
> >> > > > > them.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> AsciiDoc provides an HTML5 backend [1] that
> should
> >> > > > provide
> >> > > > > a
> >> > > > > > > > >>> hook
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> help it be consistent in some form with the
> rest of
> >> > the
> >> > > > > site.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> [1]
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > >
> http://www.methods.co.nz/asciidoc/asciidoc.css-embedded.html#X35
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 8:10 AM, Matt Gilman <
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> [hidden email]>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Agreed. Lets see give it a try and see how it
> >> > looks. I
> >> > > > > > > > >>> thought
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> about
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> possibly just putting the drop in the toolbar
> but
> >> > held
> >> > > > off
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> initially
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> but
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> your comment about being consistently visible
> >> across
> >> > > all
> >> > > > > > > > >>> pages
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> is
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> on
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> point.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> This brings up another issue that the current
> >> > > > > documentation
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> loads
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> in
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> page
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> without the toolbar so that'll have to be
> >> addressed.
> >> > > > > > > > >> Haven't
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> messed
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> with
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> bootstrap so I'll have to see what's possible.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Outstanding issues...
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> - Better integrate documentation pages into
> >> website
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> - Get updated images (and properly scale them)
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> - Update website markup for production use
> (what I
> >> > did
> >> > > > was
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> quick
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> and
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> just
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> for the mockup so we continue this discussion)
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Anything else I'm forgetting?
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 12:26 AM, Aldrin Piri <
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> [hidden email]>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Matt,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Looks good here.  I think clean and simple is
> the
> >> > > right
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> direction
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> and
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> this
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> is just another step in that evolution. I
> think
> >> it
> >> > > is a
> >> > > > > > > > >>> matter
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> nit-picking at this point so the following
> >> comments
> >> > > > come
> >> > > > > > > > >>> with
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> that
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> scope of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> importance.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I would like to see the logo make it
> somewhere on
> >> > the
> >> > > > > page
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> consistently
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> for
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the sake of keeping it across all pages in the
> >> > > site.  I
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> realize
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> logo in
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the navbar is rather redundant for the home
> page,
> >> > but
> >> > > > on
> >> > > > > > > > >> all
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> other
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> pages such as documentation and general
> project
> >> > > > > > > > >> information,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> there
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> will
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> be
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> no presence in the current state.  One way to
> >> > > > compromise
> >> > > > > > > > >>> might
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> be
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> make
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> use of the commonplace technique where the
> logo
> >> on
> >> > > the
> >> > > > > > > > >> main
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> content
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> area
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> gets placed into the navbar when scrolling
> would
> >> > > > obscure
> >> > > > > > > > >> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> logo;
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> all
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> other pages would then just have it in the
> >> header.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Maybe a slightly heavier weight on the navbar
> for
> >> > the
> >> > > > > menu
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> items.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 22:51 Matt Gilman <
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> [hidden email]>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Aldrin,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> I like what you did here and it sounds like
> most
> >> > > > people
> >> > > > > > > > >> do
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> too.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> I
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wanted
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> provide some feedback and minor suggestions
> but
> >> > > > thought
> >> > > > > > > > >> it
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> would
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> just
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> be
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> easier to mock it up myself rather than
> trying
> >> to
> >> > > ask
> >> > > > > > > > >> you
> >> > > > > > > > >>> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> move
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> this
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> here
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> and that there. Anyways, take a peek and lets
> >> > > continue
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> iterating.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> I
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> think
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> we're on the right track.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://raw.githubusercontent.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> com/mcgilman/apache-nifi-site/
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> screenshots/index.html.lite.v1.2.png
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Matt
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 10:05 PM, Joe Witt <
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> [hidden email]>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dan,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> No real thought behind it.  But I personally
> >> > agree
> >> > > > > > > > >> with
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> your
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> statement:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the logos look good as "nifi" and the text
> >> looks
> >> > > good
> >> > > > > > > > >> as
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> "NiFi"
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 10:03 PM, Daniel
> Bress
> >> <
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aldrin,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   I think this looks good.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> All,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Maybe this is a little off topic, but I
> >> > noticed
> >> > > > > > > > >>> that
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> logos
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> consistently use "nifi" whereas in text its
> >> > > > > > > > >>> consistently
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> written
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> as
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "NiFi".  Any reason for the difference?
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   I kind of thing the logos look good as
> >> "nifi"
> >> > > and
> >> > > > > > > > >>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> text
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> looks
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> good
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> as "NiFi" so I might be questioning
> something
> >> > > that I
> >> > > > > > > > >>> am
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> OK
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> with.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> But I
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> noticed they are different and was
> wondering
> >> if
> >> > > this
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> was a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> conscious
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> decision or not.  Thoughts?
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dan Bress
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Software Engineer
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ONYX Consulting Services
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________________
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Joe Witt <[hidden email]>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 6:40 PM
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [hidden email]
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Website Theme
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Solid design and agree with all your
> comments
> >> > > > > > > > >> aldrin.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> Very
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> nice
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2015 6:27 PM, "Aldrin Piri" <
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> [hidden email]>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the comments.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I actuality tried it without the logo on
> the
> >> > main
> >> > > > > > > > >>> page
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> and
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> it
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> felt
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bit empty.  I don't know that we
> necessarily
> >> > need
> >> > > > > > > > >>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> logo
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> there,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> but
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something is needed.  Additionally, I
> viewed
> >> it
> >> > > as
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> being
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> just
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> "front
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page" inclusion, as other pages would just
> >> have
> >> > > > > > > > >> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> top
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> navbar.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You caught me.  I was lazy and I recycled
> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> screenshot
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> from
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first iteration.  It would definitely need
> >> > > > > > > > >> updating,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> but
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> is
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> largely
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just a placeholder for the concept.  I
> would
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> definitely
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> like
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> something
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a bit more engaging.  (faux edit) I
> >> rearranged
> >> > > > > > > > >>> things
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> bit,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> removing
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the second instance of the logo and
> placing
> >> > more
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> emphasis
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> on
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> one
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the corner of the application.  Not
> sure
> >> if
> >> > I
> >> > > > > > > > >>> like
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> it
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> better,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> but
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've provided the results [1] with all
> three
> >> of
> >> > > > > > > > >> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> submissions
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> shown
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in chronological order [2].
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The news section is a toss-up for me at
> this
> >> > > > > > > > >>> juncture.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> I
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> could
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> see
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the need one for eventually, but I'm not
> sure
> >> > if
> >> > > > > > > > >> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> project
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> is
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> quite
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there yet.  It seemed a common thread
> among
> >> > > > > > > > >>> incubating
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> sites
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> that
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> such
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a section was omitted whereas those
> top-level
> >> > > > > > > > >>> projects
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> typically
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> included one.  Given that the project is
> on
> >> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>> verge
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> on
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> first
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the regular releases, perhaps this is
> >> > > increasingly
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> pertinent
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> in
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> near future.  At minimum, one of the
> screen
> >> > grabs
> >> > > > > > > > >>> from
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> your
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> blog
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> posts
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be a good candidate.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> >> > > https://raw.githubusercontent.com/apiri/apache-nifi-site/scr
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> eenshots/index.html.lite.v1.1.png
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > >
> https://github.com/apiri/apache-nifi-site/blob/screenshots/README.md
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Mark
> Payne
> >> <
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> [hidden email]
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aldrin,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm liking it! Definitely looks nice.
> >> Though I
> >> > > > > > > > >>> would
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> provide a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> bit
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feedback:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure that I would include the
> NiFi
> >> > logo
> >> > > > > > > > >> on
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> right-hand
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> side,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since it's already in the top-left.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From a NiFi 'brand' perspective, I would
> >> > update
> >> > > > > > > > >>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> screenshot a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> bit.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This screenshot is using the old logo in
> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>> top-left
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> corner,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> and
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> graph
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shows all of the data disappearing before
> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> RouteOnAttribute
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Processor.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd recommend we construct a dataflow
> that's
> >> > more
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> appealing
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> target
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> audience, perhaps integrating with other
> >> Apache
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> projects
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> (HDFS,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Kafka
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> are
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible, for instance) or using (S)FTP
> >> > > processor.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does it make sense to have maybe like a
> >> > 'Latest
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> News'
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> section
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> or
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something where we could post things like
> >> > > "Version
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> 0.0.1
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> just
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> released!"
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc.?
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm really liking the concept - nice job!
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks-Mark
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 07:00:52 -0800
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Website Theme
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: [hidden email]
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [hidden email]
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I like it.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 8:50 PM, Aldrin
> >> Piri
> >> > <
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I found some time today to provide
> another
> >> > > > > > > > >> look
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> for
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> site.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> There
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were very minor changes to the core
> HTML
> >> as
> >> > > > > > > > >> is
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> currently
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> served
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> at
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nidi homepage and it is largely just a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> stylesheet.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> This
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> one
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> is
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> highly
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minimal and clean, still driven by
> >> Bootstrap
> >> > > > > > > > >>> and
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> directly
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> makes
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> use
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the colors from the UI itself.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A screenshot can be seen at
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> >> > > https://raw.githubusercontent.com/apiri/apache-nifi-site/scr
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> eenshots/index.html.lite.png
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the associated code under the
> "lite"
> >> > > > > > > > >>> branch
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> at
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> https://github.com/apiri/apache-nifi-site/tree/lite
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any thoughts are appreciated.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 9:54 PM, Aldrin
> >> Piri
> >> > <
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry if this somehow gets sent twice.
> >>  My
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> first
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> submission
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> seemed
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bounce as it exceeded the spam
> threshold
> >> > > > > > > > >>> when I
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> sent
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> it a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> couple
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hours ago and it has yet to appear, so
> >> I'm
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> sending
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> again.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> First and foremost, good feedback.  I
> >> think
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> UI/UX
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> stuff
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> is
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> tricky
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am happy to find my livelihood in
> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> plumbing
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> and
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> behind
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scenes
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's my attempt to try and tackle
> all
> >> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> comments
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> in
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> one
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> fell
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> swoop:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree that Bootstrap is everywhere,
> >> but I
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> don't
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> necessarily
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is a bad thing.  One could argue
> >> that
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> interfaces
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> all
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> forms
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> converging and users have the instant
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> familiarity
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> known
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quantity.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know that I am totally unaware of
> what
> >> it
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> takes
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> make a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> site
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> functional and maintain its feel
> across
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> devices.  I
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> think
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> that
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> last
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> part is important.  Personally, as a
> user
> >> > > > > > > > >> on
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> other
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> side
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screen, I don't really understand why
> >> sites
> >> > > > > > > > >>> do
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> not
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> work
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> or
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> jive
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my mobile device du jour these days;
> it
> >> > > > > > > > >>> should
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> just
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> work.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> With
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> little I've learned about UX and "Not
> >> > > > > > > > >> Making
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> [Anyone]
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Think,"[1] I
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want an effortless experience; no
> pinch
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> zooming,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> tap
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> panning,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> etc.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there is a way to take bits and
> pieces of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> bootstrap
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> this
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> end
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support that aspect without the cookie
> >> > > > > > > > >> cutter
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> air,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> I
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> would
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> be
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> quite
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thankful for some guidance on that
> front
> >> > > > > > > > >> and
> >> > > > > > > > >>> do
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> my
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> best
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> provide
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Out of the box though, the sample
> looked
> >> > > > > > > > >>> pretty
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> decent
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> across
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> all
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> devices to which I had access, and
> used
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> constructs
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> everyone
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> who
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> views
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> content through a tiny screen is
> >> > > > > > > > >> accustomed.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do agree on the front of the
> >> possibility
> >> > > > > > > > >> of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> brand
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> dilution,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think it is an excellent point for
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> consideration.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> As
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> original mailing, consideration was
> given
> >> > > > > > > > >> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> integrating
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> application's aesthetics into the core
> >> > > > > > > > >> site.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> Not
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> sure
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> if
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> this
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pan out in an appreciable way as I can
> >> see
> >> > > > > > > > >> it
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> in
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> my
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> mind,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> but
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> I
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> do
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feel it is an avenue worth
> exploring.  It
> >> > > > > > > > >> may
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> also
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> completely
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> miss
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mark, but with my new found web dev
> >> > > > > > > > >> prowess,
> >> > > > > > > > >>> it
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> should
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> be a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> much
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quicker iteration than the first
> draft.
> >> > > > > > > > >>> You'll
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> see a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> slight
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> homage
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this via the graph wallpaper that is
> >> > > > > > > > >> featured
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> in
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> application
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> itself.  This was muted a bit by a CSS
> >> > > > > > > > >>> overlay
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> to a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> level
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> that
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seemed
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> okay, but I definitely hedged as to
> >> whether
> >> > > > > > > > >>> or
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> not
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> include
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ultimately, I wanted to get something
> out
> >> > > > > > > > >> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> start
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> ball
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rolling,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> establishing a base for successive
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> iterations.  I
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> know
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> that
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> with
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the hard work everyone is putting in,
> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> project
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> is
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> closely
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reaching
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its first milestone for release, and
> >> > > > > > > > >> thought
> >> > > > > > > > >>> it
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> important to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> chip
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where possible to give a face to the
> >> > > > > > > > >> project.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Additionally, I think this particular
> >> > > > > > > > >> project
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> needs
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> pictures
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> demonstrate what it's capabilities.
> One
> >> of
> >> > > > > > > > >>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> facets
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> that
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> makes
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believer about NiFi as a whole is that
> >> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>> end
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> user
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> is
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> not
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> just
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> developers.  Citing the previous
> example
> >> of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> Accumulo,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> its
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> intended
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> audience is very technical in nature
> and,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> accordingly,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> lot
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> can
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expressed via the simple phrase of
> >> > > > > > > > >> "key-value
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> store."
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> I
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> would
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contend
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that NiFi's reach is far broader and
> >> can't
> >> > > > > > > > >> be
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> done
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> justice
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> with
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simple phrase.  For the casual
> potential
> >> > > > > > > > >> user
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> who
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> has
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> strung
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> together
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> n-many processes of taking a file,
> >> manually
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> transforming
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> it,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moving it elsewhere, they need to see
> at
> >> > > > > > > > >>> quick
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> glance
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> that
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> there
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something that can automate this
> tedium
> >> and
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> make
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> them
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> more
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effective.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Succinctly, the value proposition
> needs
> >> to
> >> > > > > > > > >> be
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> there
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> not
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> only
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> technical folks who will use this as a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> framework,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> but
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> additionally
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> end users.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The background for the header isn't
> >> > > > > > > > >> awesome,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> but
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> I
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> knew I
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wasn't
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> violating any licenses if I generated
> it
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> myself.  I
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> viewed
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> it
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> more
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a placeholder than anything else.
> >> > > > > > > > >> Definitely
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> not a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> front
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> end
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> web
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> developer, even more definitively not
> a
> >> > > > > > > > >>> graphic
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> artist.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> The
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> colors
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> came from starting with the logo dark
> >> blue
> >> > > > > > > > >>> and
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> running
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> whole
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bunch
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of filters and plugins via GIMP to get
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> something.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Additionally,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a CSS gradient applied over top of
> it
> >> as
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> well
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> when
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> it
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> seemed
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bit
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too loud.  It could definitely deal
> with
> >> > > > > > > > >>> being
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> muted
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> bit
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> more.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] http://www.sensible.com/dmmt.html
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 12:57 PM, Tony
> >> Kurc
> >> > > > > > > > >> <
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey! It looks awesome! The existing
> site
> >> > > > > > > > >> was
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> put
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> together a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> placeholder
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we went with a very generic layout
> that
> >> > > > > > > > >>> worked
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> well
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> with
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CMS and
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contained all the information
> expected
> >> of
> >> > > > > > > > >> an
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> apache
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> process.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a big improvement! For people
> >> new
> >> > > > > > > > >> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> project,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> it
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> gives
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nice
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> upfront screenshot, with big fat
> links
> >> for
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> things
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> I
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> care
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> about
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seeing!
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some things I didn't like about the
> >> > > > > > > > >> existing
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> site
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> are
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> glyphicon
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to "external" sites on the menu. I
> used
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> "link",
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> but
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> I
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> think
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> it
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meant to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be used for "permalink". Also, we
> kind
> >> of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> took a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> best
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> guess
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> about
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should go in each dropdown in the
> menu.
> >> > > > > > > > >> I'm
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> pretty
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> sure
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> it
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> could
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> organized. I'd also like to see the
> >> > > > > > > > >> awesome
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> guides
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> that
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> people
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consistent theme with the website and
> >> > > > > > > > >> maybe
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> have
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> pdfs
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> so
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> old-school
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folks
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can print them out (which may be a
> dumb
> >> > > > > > > > >> idea
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> ;)
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> )
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> A
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> pet
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> peeve
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mine of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> projects is having a hard time
> finding
> >> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> documentation I
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> need,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> javadocs or specifications - and
> keeping
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> around
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> older
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> versions
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documentation. I think we're still
> >> working
> >> > > > > > > > >>> on
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> these
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> -
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> since
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> you
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> retained
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the menu up top it should be
> >> > > > > > > > >> straightforward
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> have a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> robust
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documentation
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dropdown.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The blue you used is more of a
> reddish
> >> or
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> purplish
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> blue
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> -
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> blue
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> used
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the app is more of a greenish blue.
> I'm
> >> > > > > > > > >> kind
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> curious
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> what
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> greener
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blue
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would look like ... did you mock one
> up
> >> > > > > > > > >> and
> >> > > > > > > > >>> it
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> looked
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> bad?
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Or
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fundamental question, should the
> website
> >> > > > > > > > >>> evoke
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> theme of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> app? I
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't know how I feel.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tony
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Joe
> >> Witt
> >> > > > > > > > >> <
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd say the two sides of the
> spectrum
> >> as
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> examples
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> are:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://kafka.apache.org/  [super
> >> > > > > > > > >>> minimalist]
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://aurora.incubator.apache.org/
> [
> >> > > > > > > > >>> quite
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> fancy
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> looking ]
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Both in my opinion are beautifully
> done
> >> > > > > > > > >> and
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> make
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> it
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> easy
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> get
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> content
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needed.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think these (and others) provide
> >> great
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> examples
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> that
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> both
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sides
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spectrum have merit.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is most important to me is
> that we
> >> > > > > > > > >> as
> >> > > > > > > > >>> a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> community
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> rally
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> behind
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the expertise and willingness
> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> contribute
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> in
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> this
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> space.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Joe
> >> > > > > > > > >> Witt <
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Both are bootstrap based.  Each is
> an
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> iterative
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> improvement.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And we
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep iterating as folks have time,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> willingness,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> and
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> expertise
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree that this new look does not
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> distinguish a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> brand.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> But
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we're
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mature enough to worry about that
> yet.
> >> > > > > > > > >>> We
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> just
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> need
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> enough
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info laid out enough to help grow a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> community
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> and
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> get
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> folks
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need.  We need it laid out in a way
> >> > > > > > > > >> that
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> multiple
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> folks
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> can
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contribute.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once we have a release, recruit
> some
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> committers,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> demonstrate
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> progress on
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Apache Way and grow then
> perhaps
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> branding
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> becomes a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> bigger
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deal.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ..this motivates me to spawn
> another
> >> > > > > > > > >>> thread
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> about
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> type
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to be...
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 11:13 AM,
> Adam
> >> > > > > > > > >>> Taft
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> <
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This isn't a downvote -- I think
> it
> >> > > > > > > > >>> indeed
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> looks
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> good.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> But
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> terms of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> constructive criticism...
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the mockup looks like a
> very
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> generic
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> "bootstrap"
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> site,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> similar
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> million other bootstrap based
> sites.
> >> > > > > > > > >>> I'd
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> personally
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> almost
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prefer
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> existing utilitarian website over
> a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> bootstrap
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> theme,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> simply
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't try to be anything more
> than
> >> > > > > > > > >>> what
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> it
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> is.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This approach might be an
> acceptable
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> tradeoff
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> for
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> project;
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> having
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bootstrap look & feel is
> obviously a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> resource
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> savings
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> and
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right price point.  But the site
> >> > > > > > > > >> mockup
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> definitely
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distinguish
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache NiFi "brand" in anyway. In
> >> fact
> >> > > > > > > > >>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> opposite,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> brand
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gets
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> watered
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> down with this look.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As a funny side note, humorously
> for
> >> > > > > > > > >> me,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> this
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> was
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> first
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> head when I saw the site:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2010-04-01/
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Adam
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 7:39 PM,
> >> Aldrin
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> Piri
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> <
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In partial fulfillment of the
> goals
> >> > > > > > > > >> of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> NIFI-162, I
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> set
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> some
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aside
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> put together something a bit more
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> visually
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> appealing
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> as a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> face
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My work can be found at:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> https://github.com/apiri/apache-nifi-site
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently, work focused around
> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> homepage,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> but
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> similar
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> styles
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> applied to more content driven
> pages
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> minus
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> large
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> headlining
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sections.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The relevant technology colophon
> is
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> provided
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> in
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> README
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Github
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but is
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> primarily driven by Bootstrap,
> >> > > > > > > > >>> existing
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> image
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> resources
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> included
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project and current site, and
> other
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> "artwork"
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> which I
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> created
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> myself.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am neither a UX expert nor am
> I a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> renowned
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> front
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> end
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> designer,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> input is welcome.  As a "version
> >> > > > > > > > >> 1.1"
> >> > > > > > > > >>> I
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> would
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> like to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> adjust
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> converge more with the
> application.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> Ideas
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> for
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> this
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> are
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inclusive
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> points
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> such as bringing the toolbar
> styling
> >> > > > > > > > >>> and
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> color
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> scheme
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> from
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> application
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the site.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If this seems like a reasonable
> path
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> forward
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> and
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> there
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> is
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sufficient
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support, I can look at the next
> >> > > > > > > > >> steps
> >> > > > > > > > >>> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> get
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> this
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> integrated
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project, optimization, and
> >> > > > > > > > >> integration
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> with
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> application
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> itself.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To aid in showing the intangibles
> >> > > > > > > > >> that
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> can't
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> be
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> seen
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> from
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> an
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> image, I
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a copy of this design hosted at
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://aldrinpiri.com/apache-nifi/.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links are currently
> nonfunctional as
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> they
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> were
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> taken
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> from
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> current
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --Aldrin
> >> > > > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
>
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Re: Website Theme

Matt Gilman
Joe,

Edit the files in Git [1]. The pages are separated according to their mark
up. After building everything ends up flatten. We can certainly change that
in time if necessary.

Tony,

NIFI-162 [2]

[1]
https://github.com/apache/incubator-nifi/tree/develop/nifi-site/src/pages
[2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NIFI-162

On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 5:38 PM, Tony Kurc <[hidden email]> wrote:

> should I make a ticket for documenting maintaining the website? I couldn't
> find one.
>
> On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 5:29 PM, Joe Witt <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Matt
> >
> > What can I do now to help with maintaining v2 stuff?  Do I edit the
> > files in Git or the files in SVN?  Don't want to mess with it yet
> > because I don't understand it.  But if you can give me a few pointers
> > I can help.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Joe
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Matt Gilman <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> > > I have an idea of how its going to work. However, once we reach out to
> > > infrastructure regarding the external build (if necessary) we'll know
> for
> > > sure [1]. After that discussion I will update nifi-site in our Git repo
> > > accordingly. It says that the mailing list is infrastructure@, does
> that
> > > mean [hidden email]?
> > >
> > > Mark had an idea about an updated screenshot but higher priority things
> > > have popped up. The image can be updated whenever its ready [2].
> > >
> > > If you have any other ideas for media we should incorporate (other
> > > screenshots, FAQs, videos, etc) let me know.
> > >
> > > [1] http://www.apache.org/dev/cms.html#external
> > > [2]
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-nifi/blob/develop/nifi-site/src/images/flow.png
> > >
> > > On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 9:17 AM, Joe Witt <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Matt
> > >>
> > >> It looks good.  Before we switch we should get the mechanics of update
> > >> documented.   Do you know that or is it TBD?
> > >>
> > >> Also do you need assistance with updating the screenshot?
> > >>
> > >> Joe
> > >> On Feb 8, 2015 4:45 AM, "Matt Gilman" <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Barring any objections, I'd like to more forward with the updated
> > website
> > >> > [1]. I've kept up with the changes with the exception of those from
> > the
> > >> > last few days. Assuming everyone is on board I will reach out to
> INFRA
> > >> > about the possibilities for the website build. Based on that
> > >> conservation I
> > >> > will update the nifi-site in our Git repo [2] accordingly. I am
> > assuming
> > >> > that we'll be doing an external build and part of that build will be
> > >> > deploying the site using SVN.
> > >> >
> > >> > [1] https://nifi.incubator.apache.org/v2/
> > >> > [2] https://github.com/apache/incubator-nifi/tree/develop/nifi-site
> > >> >
> > >> > On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 3:28 AM, Jennifer Barnabee <
> > >> > [hidden email]> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > I think that's perfect!
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 10:08 PM, Joe Witt <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > Hello
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Made some of these suggested edits/simplifications to the
> current
> > >> site.
> > >> > > > New tagline
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > "Apache NiFi is an easy to use, powerful, and reliable system to
> > >> > process
> > >> > > > and distribute data."
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Also removed the jumbotron block as it was causing some really
> > >> strange
> > >> > > text
> > >> > > > sizing issues.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Jenn - does this seem more like what you were thinking?
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Thanks
> > >> > > > Joe
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 11:03 PM, Matt Gilman <
> > >> [hidden email]
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > Aldrin,
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > What you've outline is exactly what I am looking to
> accomplish,
> > I'm
> > >> > > just
> > >> > > > > trying to figure out all the pieces. I think I have a handle
> on
> > >> > > > everything
> > >> > > > > except actual publishing of the site. Though I believe the
> email
> > >> you
> > >> > > sent
> > >> > > > > out earlier indicates that we just need to discuss the matter
> > >> further
> > >> > > > with
> > >> > > > > infrastructure@ mailing list. I tried committing a change
> > (outside
> > >> > of
> > >> > > > CMS)
> > >> > > > > to the staging repository hoping it would kick off the
> > publishing.
> > >> It
> > >> > > did
> > >> > > > > not.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > I have prototyped the site artifacts which can be built into
> the
> > >> > static
> > >> > > > > site. I still need to copy over the existing content but I'm
> > trying
> > >> > to
> > >> > > > > figure out where this is going to live first. Barring any
> > >> objections
> > >> > I
> > >> > > am
> > >> > > > > going to create (likely tomorrow) a nifi-site directory at the
> > root
> > >> > of
> > >> > > > our
> > >> > > > > Git repository and go from there. Currently everything is
> living
> > >> in a
> > >> > > > > repository that I forked from the work that Aldrin had
> started.
> > >> > > Anyways,
> > >> > > > I
> > >> > > > > believe moving it to the project Git repository puts the site
> > in a
> > >> > more
> > >> > > > > accessible place where others can contribute as necessary.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > As I mentioned to Dan earlier, I am hoping that we can
> utilize a
> > >> > maven
> > >> > > > > plugin [1] to deploy the relevant documentation (processor,
> > guides,
> > >> > > > > javadocs) from the application build to a predefined location.
> > The
> > >> > site
> > >> > > > > would just reference it from there. This would keep the site
> and
> > >> > > > > application builds independent which I think is desirable.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > [1] http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-scm-publish-plugin/
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 10:30 PM, Aldrin Piri <
> > >> [hidden email]>
> > >> > > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > > All the comments have been good but are a bit beyond where
> the
> > >> > > current
> > >> > > > > > platform for them needs to be.  Additionally, with a site
> more
> > >> > > > accessible
> > >> > > > > > and live, changes can be made via contributions. Trying to
> > route
> > >> > > things
> > >> > > > > > back on topic a bit as there are external dependencies on
> some
> > >> > > > > "finalized"
> > >> > > > > > state of the site, I did some research into how other
> projects
> > >> are
> > >> > > > > > accomplishing this based off of Matt's notes.
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Matt, looking at jclouds, it appears as though they also use
> > the
> > >> > ASF
> > >> > > > > > infrastructure to manage their site, but perform a build
> > through
> > >> a
> > >> > > > script
> > >> > > > > > [1], invoking Jekyll to generate the static pages pushed to
> > the
> > >> > infra
> > >> > > > > SVN;
> > >> > > > > > it is a home-brewed git+svn of sorts, but the overall
> concept
> > >> makes
> > >> > > > > sense.
> > >> > > > > > Given the technologies you listed, this seems like a fair
> > >> approach
> > >> > to
> > >> > > > > > utilize the build tools right for the job while
> simultaneously
> > >> not
> > >> > > > > > requiring a special setup as outlined in the Apache CMS
> > >> information
> > >> > > > [2],
> > >> > > > > > the community can freely pick the technologies they wish
> with
> > the
> > >> > > > notion
> > >> > > > > > that the interface between site code and the actual view is
> > >> static
> > >> > > html
> > >> > > > > > committed to the Infra SVN repo.
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > The one area that I think is important to address though is
> > the
> > >> > > > > > incorporation of the material being generated in the git
> > >> repository
> > >> > > and
> > >> > > > > as
> > >> > > > > > a product of the build process.  Quickly brainstorming a way
> > to
> > >> > > attack
> > >> > > > > this
> > >> > > > > > would be:
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > 1.  provide a top level folder in the NiFi git repository,
> > 'site'
> > >> > > > (Matt
> > >> > > > > > posed this as a possibility to which no one had any
> > objections,
> > >> so
> > >> > it
> > >> > > > > seems
> > >> > > > > > like a reasonable path forward)
> > >> > > > > > 2.  provide a script that compiles the site, making use of
> the
> > >> > > desired
> > >> > > > > > tools assuming the structure of the site
> > >> > > > > > 3.  provide orchestration of the core codebase and the site
> > >> > > > > >   a.  through Maven and possibly the exec or similar plugin,
> > >> > profile,
> > >> > > > or
> > >> > > > > > other avenue, build the codebase needed (mvn -pl -am may do
> > the
> > >> > job)
> > >> > > > > >   b.  call the script to generate the static structure of
> the
> > >> site
> > >> > > > which
> > >> > > > > > has a build target that is a copy of the svn checkout to
> make
> > use
> > >> > of
> > >> > > > the
> > >> > > > > > diff (maybe there is a way to use git+svn to make this work
> > in a
> > >> > less
> > >> > > > > > cumbersome manner)
> > >> > > > > > 4.  commit to infra subversion
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > The code for the site is easily accessible and allows
> > submission
> > >> of
> > >> > > > > patches
> > >> > > > > > via git while using the tools that make sense for
> > accomplishing
> > >> > what
> > >> > > is
> > >> > > > > > needed; Subversion just becomes the means for content
> > delivery.
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > There are certainly a number of details to iron out with the
> > >> above
> > >> > > > plan.
> > >> > > > > > The biggest item is taking the disparate formats (asciidoc,
> > >> > processor
> > >> > > > > > documentation) and condensing them into the HTML/CSS
> template
> > set
> > >> > > > forth,
> > >> > > > > > but both have provisions for specifying CSS, so it is
> > certainly
> > >> > > doable.
> > >> > > > > > The above method allows for the avoidance of committing
> > generated
> > >> > > files
> > >> > > > > to
> > >> > > > > > the core codebase (obviously, all generated files compose
> the
> > SVN
> > >> > > > site),
> > >> > > > > > and allows for a direct correlation between documentation
> and
> > a
> > >> > given
> > >> > > > > > commit while simultaneously not binding the site explicitly
> to
> > >> SVN
> > >> > or
> > >> > > > ASF
> > >> > > > > > CMS.
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > One item that seems problematic with the above plan is that
> it
> > >> > would
> > >> > > > > remove
> > >> > > > > > the ease of submitting a patch via the provided bookmarklet
> > that
> > >> > > works
> > >> > > > > with
> > >> > > > > > the CMS.  This becomes a manual process to find the source
> > >> content
> > >> > > and
> > >> > > > > > apply the patch to it in Git.  Although to some extent, this
> > is
> > >> > > already
> > >> > > > > the
> > >> > > > > > case given the use of Asciidoc and the Processor
> > documentation.
> > >> > Not
> > >> > > > sure
> > >> > > > > > if it is a deal breaker or not, but it is a point of
> > >> consideration.
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > [1]
> > >> > >
> https://github.com/jclouds/jclouds-site/blob/master/deploy-site.sh
> > >> > > > > > [2] http://www.apache.org/dev/cms.html#external
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Jennifer Barnabee <
> > >> > > > > > [hidden email]> wrote:
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > You guys are totally right.  Ok, as a starting point, what
> > >> about
> > >> > > this
> > >> > > > > or
> > >> > > > > > > something like this?
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > Apache NiFi is a highly configurable and intuitive
> dataflow
> > >> > > > management
> > >> > > > > > > system.
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > -Jenn
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Donald Miner <
> > >> > > > [hidden email]>
> > >> > > > > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > Same here, never heard of fbp.
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > I like the Accumulo blurb on the front page a lot:
> > >> > > > > > > > The Apache Accumulo™ sorted, distributed key/value store
> > is a
> > >> > > > robust,
> > >> > > > > > > > scalable, high performance data storage and retrieval
> > system.
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > (I think i based my suggestion on this). It just gets to
> > the
> > >> > > point
> > >> > > > > and
> > >> > > > > > as
> > >> > > > > > > > a technologist that has a clue or two I know what it is
> > >> trying
> > >> > to
> > >> > > > do.
> > >> > > > > > > > Another example Kafka: "A high-throughput distributed
> > >> messaging
> > >> > > > > > system. "
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > On Jan 29, 2015, at 5:07 PM, Joey Echeverria <
> > >> > [hidden email]
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > Just to clarify, I wasn't advocating that it should be
> > >> > removed
> > >> > > > (I'm
> > >> > > > > > not
> > >> > > > > > > > > really advocating for anything). My point was meant to
> > >> > > illustrate
> > >> > > > > > that
> > >> > > > > > > > it's
> > >> > > > > > > > > not a draw, but it is potentially an educational
> > reference.
> > >> > So,
> > >> > > > it
> > >> > > > > > > > depends
> > >> > > > > > > > > on how you want to use the real-estate in the tag
> line.
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > On Thu Jan 29 2015 at 11:19:38 AM Joe Witt <
> > >> > [hidden email]
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > >> We can get rid of the FBP reference.  I'll just be
> the
> > >> > excited
> > >> > > > > tech
> > >> > > > > > > guy
> > >> > > > > > > > in
> > >> > > > > > > > >> the corner of the conference that keeps talking about
> > it.
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> On Jan 29, 2015 1:00 PM, "Joey Echeverria" <
> > >> > > [hidden email]>
> > >> > > > > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>> I understand that flow-based programming is very
> > >> important
> > >> > as
> > >> > > > the
> > >> > > > > > > model
> > >> > > > > > > > >> of
> > >> > > > > > > > >>> NiFi, but I don't think it's a widely understood
> term.
> > >> > FWIW,
> > >> > > I
> > >> > > > > > hadn't
> > >> > > > > > > > >> heard
> > >> > > > > > > > >>> of it until I started working with NiFi.
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>> On Thu Jan 29 2015 at 9:56:10 AM Jennifer Barnabee <
> > >> > > > > > > > >>> [hidden email]> wrote:
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> Hi Donald,
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> I like your tagline sentence for the most part.
> > Thanks
> > >> so
> > >> > > much
> > >> > > > > for
> > >> > > > > > > > >>> sending
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> it. Maybe it can get us to where we want to be...
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> I have these thoughts to add...
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> a) I think we want to honor that flow-based
> > programming
> > >> is
> > >> > > the
> > >> > > > > > basis
> > >> > > > > > > > of
> > >> > > > > > > > >>> the
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> software. So, that's important, and I think that's
> > why
> > >> it
> > >> > > went
> > >> > > > > > into
> > >> > > > > > > > the
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> tagline. But I'm not sure whether it has to be
> > >> > specifically
> > >> > > > > there.
> > >> > > > > > > > >>> Someone
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> else can weigh in on that.
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> b) My only problem with your tagline is the last
> > part:
> > >> > > > > "transform
> > >> > > > > > > and
> > >> > > > > > > > >>> move
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> files". One thing is - we don't want to limit NiFi
> to
> > >> > being
> > >> > > > only
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> file-based. Secondly, moving and transforming data
> is
> > >> not
> > >> > > all
> > >> > > > > that
> > >> > > > > > > > NiFi
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> does. In truth, NiFi is not just a dataflow system.
> > >> It's a
> > >> > > > > > dataflow
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> management system. And that encompasses everything
> > about
> > >> > the
> > >> > > > > > > dataflow,
> > >> > > > > > > > >>> from
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> how the data moves and/or gets transformed and
> > routed,
> > >> to
> > >> > > how
> > >> > > > > you
> > >> > > > > > > > >> monitor
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> that, how you track down the data, how you
> configure
> > and
> > >> > > > design
> > >> > > > > > the
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> dataflow to be better, etc.  The moving and
> > transforming
> > >> > > parts
> > >> > > > > are
> > >> > > > > > > > just
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> some of the extension points. It's the framework
> that
> > >> > allows
> > >> > > > you
> > >> > > > > > to
> > >> > > > > > > > >>> manage
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> *whatever* you do with the data.
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> So, now that I've rambled on, it's clear that I
> can't
> > >> come
> > >> > > up
> > >> > > > > with
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> something concise. I think I may be too close to
> > >> > everything
> > >> > > > :-)
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> But I think you are on the right track! I would be
> > happy
> > >> > to
> > >> > > > know
> > >> > > > > > > what
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> others think. It would be great if people could
> land
> > on
> > >> > the
> > >> > > > page
> > >> > > > > > and
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> quickly understand what NiFi is. So far, your
> > sentence
> > >> > would
> > >> > > > get
> > >> > > > > > > > people
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> closer to that than anything I have proposed.
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> Cheers,
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> Jenn
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:36 AM, Donald Miner <
> > >> > > > > > > [hidden email]
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> wrote:
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> On the subject of taglines, a minor nitpick
> (sorry).
> > >> I'm
> > >> > > > just a
> > >> > > > > > fan
> > >> > > > > > > > >> of
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> concise and meaningful taglines.
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> "is a dataflow system based on the concepts of
> > >> flow-based
> > >> > > > > > > > >> programming.
> > >> > > > > > > > >>> It
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> is currently a part of the Apache Incubator." is
> > rather
> > >> > > > wordy.
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> "flow" and "based" are in this sentence twice,
> which
> > >> > makes
> > >> > > it
> > >> > > > > > kind
> > >> > > > > > > of
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> awkward. Does flow-based programming really matter
> > >> enough
> > >> > > to
> > >> > > > be
> > >> > > > > > > part
> > >> > > > > > > > >> of
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> the
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> tagline? Maybe it should just be a bullet point
> > below.
> > >> > Same
> > >> > > > > with
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> incubator
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> status... I think that's readily available
> > information
> > >> > that
> > >> > > > > > doesn't
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> necessarily need to be in the tagline (and would
> > >> > eventually
> > >> > > > > > > change).
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> Here's my stab:
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> "The Apache NiFi dataflow system is an easy to
> use,
> > >> > highly
> > >> > > > > > > > >>> configurable,
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> extendable, and reliable way to transform and move
> > >> > files."
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> I think the list of properties in the middle of my
> > >> > sentence
> > >> > > > > could
> > >> > > > > > > be
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> replaced by someone who has a better idea of what
> > the
> > >> > true
> > >> > > > > > sticking
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> points
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> for NiFi will be.
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> -d
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Joe Witt <
> > >> > > > [hidden email]>
> > >> > > > > > > > >> wrote:
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> Jenn
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> Apologies for the delayed feedback.
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> I agree it could be more concise but feel like
> the
> > >> > > proposed
> > >> > > > is
> > >> > > > > > too
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> concise
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> to as have lost some important meaning.  Many
> > projects
> > >> > > claim
> > >> > > > > > > > >> they're
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> lightweight, scalable, and easy to use and almost
> > >> always
> > >> > > > that
> > >> > > > > > just
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> isn't
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> true.  We're arguably not 'lightweight' anymore.
> > We
> > >> > could
> > >> > > > > have
> > >> > > > > > > > >> said
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> that
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> when it was a 6 MB download perhaps but now that
> > we're
> > >> > > > > weighing
> > >> > > > > > in
> > >> > > > > > > > >> at
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> 100MB's we probably shouldn't claim that on its
> > own.
> > >> > > We're
> > >> > > > > > > > >> certainly
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> 'lightweight' in many important aspects and
> > arguably
> > >> in
> > >> > > all
> > >> > > > > the
> > >> > > > > > > > >> ways
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> that
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> truly matter but we should be at least somewhat
> > >> > > specific.  I
> > >> > > > > > agree
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> we're
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> scalable but again without context that feels
> > >> > > misleading.  I
> > >> > > > > > agree
> > >> > > > > > > > >> we
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> have
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> an extremely nice UI that is indeed highly
> > >> configurable
> > >> > > and
> > >> > > > > > > > >> intuitive
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> but
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> the same thoughts apply which is we should
> provide
> > >> some
> > >> > > > > context
> > >> > > > > > as
> > >> > > > > > > > >> to
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> what
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> we mean.
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> This is the nice part of this as an open source
> > thing.
> > >> > We
> > >> > > > can
> > >> > > > > > > just
> > >> > > > > > > > >>> be
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> straight up and precise about the features and
> what
> > >> > > they're
> > >> > > > > good
> > >> > > > > > > > >> for
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> and
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> what they do.  We can even be self deprecating
> and
> > >> point
> > >> > > out
> > >> > > > > > what
> > >> > > > > > > > >>> we're
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> not
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> good at.  If it were a commercial construct or we
> > were
> > >> > > > > marketing
> > >> > > > > > > > >> then
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> we
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> might need to be less specific so as not to
> exclude
> > >> some
> > >> > > > > > potential
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> business
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> area.  But in this case, we're a tiny little open
> > >> source
> > >> > > > > project
> > >> > > > > > > > >> that
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> very
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> few people know about.  We're only going to grow
> by
> > >> > being
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> straightforward
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> about what it is and attracting those who buy in
> to
> > >> that
> > >> > > > > vision
> > >> > > > > > > and
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> direction.
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> Just thoughts here - i am not asking you to avoid
> > >> > changing
> > >> > > > it
> > >> > > > > > > > >> should
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> you
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> feel really strongly that you want to change it.
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> Thanks
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> Joe
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 6:04 AM, Jennifer
> Barnabee
> > <
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> [hidden email]> wrote:
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Hi Matt et al -
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> The new website design is looking great...  I
> feel
> > >> like
> > >> > > the
> > >> > > > > > text
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> needs
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> to
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> be simpler and more to the point.
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> For the tagline under the first Apache nifi
> > heading,
> > >> I
> > >> > > > > suggest
> > >> > > > > > > > >>> making
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> it
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> a
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> bullet rather than including the verb "is". I'd
> > also
> > >> > like
> > >> > > > to
> > >> > > > > > make
> > >> > > > > > > > >>> the
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> features into simpler bullets. See my suggested
> > text
> > >> > > > below. I
> > >> > > > > > > > >> hope
> > >> > > > > > > > >>> it
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> still
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> captures the essence of what we want to convey,
> > but
> > >> > > others
> > >> > > > > may
> > >> > > > > > > > >> have
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> good
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> suggestions as well...  For example, in the last
> > >> > bullet,
> > >> > > I
> > >> > > > > > don't
> > >> > > > > > > > >>> know
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> if
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> "client" would be better than "user" or if
> > >> > > "authentication"
> > >> > > > > > would
> > >> > > > > > > > >>> be
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> better
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> than "authorization". You guys probably have a
> > better
> > >> > > > handle
> > >> > > > > on
> > >> > > > > > > > >>> that
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> type
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> of stuff.
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> *Apache nifi *
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> - A dataflow system based on the concepts of
> > >> flow-based
> > >> > > > > > > > >>> programming.
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> It
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> is
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> currently a part of the Apache Incubator.
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Apache NiFi supports powerful and scalable
> > directed
> > >> > > graphs
> > >> > > > of
> > >> > > > > > > > >> data
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> routing,
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> transformation, and system mediation logic.
> > >> High-level
> > >> > > > > features
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> include:
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Lightweight
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Scalable
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Highly Configurable
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Intuitive User Interface
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Component-based Extension Model
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Fine Grained Data Provenance
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Enterprise & Inter-system Security
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Content Encryption/Decryption
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Pluggable SSL & PKI User Authorization
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> *I kinda don't like that you have to scroll down
> > to
> > >> see
> > >> > > all
> > >> > > > > the
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> features.
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> But I realize it wouldn't bother me if I was
> > looking
> > >> at
> > >> > > it
> > >> > > > on
> > >> > > > > > my
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> phone,
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> so
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> I don't know why I'm complaining about that... *
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Cheers,
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Jenn
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 11:43 PM, Matt Gilman <
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> [hidden email]
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> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> wrote:
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> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> I went ahead and started implementing the
> website
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> > >> > > > > the
> > >> > > > > > > > >>> most
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> recent
> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> feedback and mock ups. I've done just the main
> > page
> > >