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spam to the dev mailing list

joewitt
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Team,

As a moderator I'm getting tons of spam emails to dev@nifi.  I cannot
keep up with rejections and am not sure if that means they'll leak
through.  I'm not quite sure how to go about getting it address so if
some come through my apologies.

About to make a NiFi spam bot!

Joe
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Re: spam to the dev mailing list

Sean Busbey
Are the rest of the PMC already moderators?

On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:19 AM, Joe Witt <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Team,
>
> As a moderator I'm getting tons of spam emails to dev@nifi.  I cannot
> keep up with rejections and am not sure if that means they'll leak
> through.  I'm not quite sure how to go about getting it address so if
> some come through my apologies.
>
> About to make a NiFi spam bot!
>
> Joe



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Re: spam to the dev mailing list

trkurc
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Some are (like me). The process of reject/accept is challenging to
coordinate.
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Re: spam to the dev mailing list

Joe Witt
In reply to this post by Sean Busbey
Tony Kurc is the other moderator at this time.

On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Sean Busbey <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Are the rest of the PMC already moderators?
>
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:19 AM, Joe Witt <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Team,
>>
>> As a moderator I'm getting tons of spam emails to dev@nifi.  I cannot
>> keep up with rejections and am not sure if that means they'll leak
>> through.  I'm not quite sure how to go about getting it address so if
>> some come through my apologies.
>>
>> About to make a NiFi spam bot!
>>
>> Joe
>
>
>
> --
> Sean
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Re: spam to the dev mailing list

Sean Busbey
FWIW, the mailing list FAQ[1] says that any messages moderators don't
respond to are treated as spam and silently dropped after 5 days. By
actively rejecting you send a notice message back to the sender.


[1]: http://apache.org/dev/committers.html#mail-moderate

On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Joe Witt <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Tony Kurc is the other moderator at this time.
>
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Sean Busbey <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Are the rest of the PMC already moderators?
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:19 AM, Joe Witt <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> Team,
>>>
>>> As a moderator I'm getting tons of spam emails to dev@nifi.  I cannot
>>> keep up with rejections and am not sure if that means they'll leak
>>> through.  I'm not quite sure how to go about getting it address so if
>>> some come through my apologies.
>>>
>>> About to make a NiFi spam bot!
>>>
>>> Joe
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sean



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Re: spam to the dev mailing list

trkurc
Administrator
Sean,
The challenging bit is not missing a legit message among the spam.

On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Sean Busbey <[hidden email]> wrote:

> FWIW, the mailing list FAQ[1] says that any messages moderators don't
> respond to are treated as spam and silently dropped after 5 days. By
> actively rejecting you send a notice message back to the sender.
>
>
> [1]: http://apache.org/dev/committers.html#mail-moderate
>
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Joe Witt <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Tony Kurc is the other moderator at this time.
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Sean Busbey <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >> Are the rest of the PMC already moderators?
> >>
> >> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:19 AM, Joe Witt <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>> Team,
> >>>
> >>> As a moderator I'm getting tons of spam emails to dev@nifi.  I cannot
> >>> keep up with rejections and am not sure if that means they'll leak
> >>> through.  I'm not quite sure how to go about getting it address so if
> >>> some come through my apologies.
> >>>
> >>> About to make a NiFi spam bot!
> >>>
> >>> Joe
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Sean
>
>
>
> --
> Sean
>
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Re: spam to the dev mailing list

Joe Witt
+1000x to Tony's comment.  I have this very same thread going with
infra@apache too.  We get some good emails that require moderation and
I don't want to miss those.  But I woke up to a few dozen crap emails
to kill.

On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 10:04 AM, Tony Kurc <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Sean,
> The challenging bit is not missing a legit message among the spam.
>
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Sean Busbey <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> FWIW, the mailing list FAQ[1] says that any messages moderators don't
>> respond to are treated as spam and silently dropped after 5 days. By
>> actively rejecting you send a notice message back to the sender.
>>
>>
>> [1]: http://apache.org/dev/committers.html#mail-moderate
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Joe Witt <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> > Tony Kurc is the other moderator at this time.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Sean Busbey <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>> >> Are the rest of the PMC already moderators?
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:19 AM, Joe Witt <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >>> Team,
>> >>>
>> >>> As a moderator I'm getting tons of spam emails to dev@nifi.  I cannot
>> >>> keep up with rejections and am not sure if that means they'll leak
>> >>> through.  I'm not quite sure how to go about getting it address so if
>> >>> some come through my apologies.
>> >>>
>> >>> About to make a NiFi spam bot!
>> >>>
>> >>> Joe
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Sean
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sean
>>
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Re: spam to the dev mailing list

Sean Busbey
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Yes, of course. I meant to address Joe's initial concern that by not
keeping up with incoming messages spam might leak through.

On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:04 AM, Tony Kurc <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Sean,
> The challenging bit is not missing a legit message among the spam.
>
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Sean Busbey <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> FWIW, the mailing list FAQ[1] says that any messages moderators don't
>> respond to are treated as spam and silently dropped after 5 days. By
>> actively rejecting you send a notice message back to the sender.
>>
>>
>> [1]: http://apache.org/dev/committers.html#mail-moderate
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Joe Witt <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> > Tony Kurc is the other moderator at this time.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Sean Busbey <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>> >> Are the rest of the PMC already moderators?
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:19 AM, Joe Witt <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >>> Team,
>> >>>
>> >>> As a moderator I'm getting tons of spam emails to dev@nifi.  I cannot
>> >>> keep up with rejections and am not sure if that means they'll leak
>> >>> through.  I'm not quite sure how to go about getting it address so if
>> >>> some come through my apologies.
>> >>>
>> >>> About to make a NiFi spam bot!
>> >>>
>> >>> Joe
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Sean
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sean
>>



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Sean
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Re: spam to the dev mailing list

Joe Witt
rgr - thanks sean.  Do you know of any apache voodoo to help with spam
or is this kind of an open issue?

On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Sean Busbey <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Yes, of course. I meant to address Joe's initial concern that by not
> keeping up with incoming messages spam might leak through.
>
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:04 AM, Tony Kurc <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Sean,
>> The challenging bit is not missing a legit message among the spam.
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Sean Busbey <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> FWIW, the mailing list FAQ[1] says that any messages moderators don't
>>> respond to are treated as spam and silently dropped after 5 days. By
>>> actively rejecting you send a notice message back to the sender.
>>>
>>>
>>> [1]: http://apache.org/dev/committers.html#mail-moderate
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Joe Witt <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> > Tony Kurc is the other moderator at this time.
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Sean Busbey <[hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>> >> Are the rest of the PMC already moderators?
>>> >>
>>> >> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:19 AM, Joe Witt <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> >>> Team,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> As a moderator I'm getting tons of spam emails to dev@nifi.  I cannot
>>> >>> keep up with rejections and am not sure if that means they'll leak
>>> >>> through.  I'm not quite sure how to go about getting it address so if
>>> >>> some come through my apologies.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> About to make a NiFi spam bot!
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Joe
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Sean
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sean
>>>
>
>
>
> --
> Sean
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Re: spam to the dev mailing list

trkurc
Administrator
Sean, some of the challenge is not all email clients allow someone to tear
through emails quickly


On Oct 30, 2015 10:14 AM, "Joe Witt" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> rgr - thanks sean.  Do you know of any apache voodoo to help with spam
> or is this kind of an open issue?
>
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Sean Busbey <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Yes, of course. I meant to address Joe's initial concern that by not
> > keeping up with incoming messages spam might leak through.
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:04 AM, Tony Kurc <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >> Sean,
> >> The challenging bit is not missing a legit message among the spam.
> >>
> >> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Sean Busbey <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> FWIW, the mailing list FAQ[1] says that any messages moderators don't
> >>> respond to are treated as spam and silently dropped after 5 days. By
> >>> actively rejecting you send a notice message back to the sender.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> [1]: http://apache.org/dev/committers.html#mail-moderate
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Joe Witt <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>> > Tony Kurc is the other moderator at this time.
> >>> >
> >>> > On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Sean Busbey <[hidden email]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> >> Are the rest of the PMC already moderators?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:19 AM, Joe Witt <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >>> >>> Team,
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> As a moderator I'm getting tons of spam emails to dev@nifi.  I
> cannot
> >>> >>> keep up with rejections and am not sure if that means they'll leak
> >>> >>> through.  I'm not quite sure how to go about getting it address so
> if
> >>> >>> some come through my apologies.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> About to make a NiFi spam bot!
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Joe
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> --
> >>> >> Sean
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Sean
> >>>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sean
>
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Re: spam to the dev mailing list

Alex Moundalexis-2
In reply to this post by Joe Witt
If another moderator is needed, I'm happy to volunteer. I may not write a
lot of code but I know spam when I see it.

On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Joe Witt <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Tony Kurc is the other moderator at this time.
>
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Sean Busbey <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Are the rest of the PMC already moderators?
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:19 AM, Joe Witt <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >> Team,
> >>
> >> As a moderator I'm getting tons of spam emails to dev@nifi.  I cannot
> >> keep up with rejections and am not sure if that means they'll leak
> >> through.  I'm not quite sure how to go about getting it address so if
> >> some come through my apologies.
> >>
> >> About to make a NiFi spam bot!
> >>
> >> Joe
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sean
>
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Re: spam to the dev mailing list

trkurc
Administrator
Thanks Alex,
I think Joe was just saying "the workflow for accepting/rejecting makes
mistakes possible, I'm sorry if it breaks down". We both moderate via email
(not sure if there is another way) and this is a problem where adding
people may increase the incidence of errors, because it is a distributed
process.

On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Alex Moundalexis <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> If another moderator is needed, I'm happy to volunteer. I may not write a
> lot of code but I know spam when I see it.
>
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Joe Witt <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Tony Kurc is the other moderator at this time.
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Sean Busbey <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> > > Are the rest of the PMC already moderators?
> > >
> > > On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:19 AM, Joe Witt <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > >> Team,
> > >>
> > >> As a moderator I'm getting tons of spam emails to dev@nifi.  I cannot
> > >> keep up with rejections and am not sure if that means they'll leak
> > >> through.  I'm not quite sure how to go about getting it address so if
> > >> some come through my apologies.
> > >>
> > >> About to make a NiFi spam bot!
> > >>
> > >> Joe
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sean
> >
>
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Re: spam to the dev mailing list

Rick Braddy
In reply to this post by joewitt
How about auto-rejecting emails from all unregistered senders, since one must register before sending email this group anyway?

Spammers won't take time to register.

Rick

> On Oct 30, 2015, at 8:19 AM, Joe Witt <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Team,
>
> As a moderator I'm getting tons of spam emails to dev@nifi.  I cannot
> keep up with rejections and am not sure if that means they'll leak
> through.  I'm not quite sure how to go about getting it address so if
> some come through my apologies.
>
> About to make a NiFi spam bot!
>
> Joe
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Re: spam to the dev mailing list

Joe Witt
That is indeed how it works.  However those items go to moderators to
handle.  This allows folks who might not know about registration or care to
get the emails still be able to communicate.
On Oct 30, 2015 12:52 PM, "Rick Braddy" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> How about auto-rejecting emails from all unregistered senders, since one
> must register before sending email this group anyway?
>
> Spammers won't take time to register.
>
> Rick
>
> > On Oct 30, 2015, at 8:19 AM, Joe Witt <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > Team,
> >
> > As a moderator I'm getting tons of spam emails to dev@nifi.  I cannot
> > keep up with rejections and am not sure if that means they'll leak
> > through.  I'm not quite sure how to go about getting it address so if
> > some come through my apologies.
> >
> > About to make a NiFi spam bot!
> >
> > Joe
>